New Detector; "Nokta" DPR!!!!

[Rov]

Hi Micheal,I sympathise with your construction troubles,Ive built a few of the detector designs from here ,all Pi,with mixed results.Yes a lot of vague an speculative values an results ,an very add hoc info.provided.an ive been in electronics for 30+ years.
Many here sometimes I suspect are Keyboard Junkies,an arent always hands on in construction as much as they claim.else we would see more indepth construction info.
Many projects ,yes dont even provide a comprehensive parts list,or are hesitant on giving working code for the micros in their projects.Some Schematics are terrible an track designs in poor resolution that dont lend themselves to Print,copy to be etched very well. As to get a correct gerber file for a professional pcb manufacture,Dont ask!
I havent been here on this forum all that long,but doing many searches I find may past members have long dropped off the branch,an may only browse from time to time ,an the input sometimes we realy need for sucessful construction no long contribute for various reasons? Also I suppose it takes an Art in itself to communicate correct working Info to the forums,an most of us arent all that good,Some very good technical,but cant communicate it into words in the forums .for whatever reasons?
All the best with your constructions, Sorry this is all Off topic of Nokta Detectors.
I dont know anything about them! Regards!
This though exist on many forums not just here!

[Max]

Hi Micheal,I sympathise with your construction troubles,Ive built a few of the detector designs from here ,all Pi,with mixed results.Yes a lot of vague an speculative values an results ,an very add hoc info.provided.an ive been in electronics for 30+ years.
Many here sometimes I suspect are Keyboard Junkies,an arent always hands on in construction as much as they claim.else we would see more indepth construction info.
Many projects ,yes dont even provide a comprehensive parts list,or are hesitant on giving working code for the micros in their projects.Some Schematics are terrible an track designs in poor resolution that dont lend themselves to Print,copy to be etched very well. As to get a correct gerber file for a professional pcb manufacture,Dont ask!
I havent been here on this forum all that long,but doing many searches I find may past members have long dropped off the branch,an may only browse from time to time ,an the input sometimes we realy need for sucessful construction no long contribute for various reasons? Also I suppose it takes an Art in itself to communicate correct working Info to the forums,an most of us arent all that good,Some very good technical,but cant communicate it into words in the forums .for whatever reasons?
All the best with your constructions, Sorry this is all Off topic of Nokta Detectors.
I dont know anything about them! Regards!
This though exist on many forums not just here!

Hi,

"Many here sometimes I suspect are Keyboard Junkies,an arent always hands on in construction as much as they claim.else we would see more indepth construction info."

Hmmmm why not ??? Maybe I like too much hitting the keyboard... sure it is!

BUT

the bad news for you is that I know what I'm talking about...

When I first realized the potential of GSIV was after I made it on protoboards... then tested on soil... WOW! Too sensitive for me I said... then went to the beach and remained simply astonished!

That was years ago... not months... then I experimented all over the ways with it... make variations etc

The first unit I made (on protoboards !) I sold for 1000euros (yes!) but to a person that I like as THer... cause usually I don't sell anything of what I make... he insisted much after saw in field results with that and , considering I spent so much time developing mods and making such dirty work on protoboards and tuning at scope, I decided to sell that glued "masterpiece"... it was huge and heavy... but HELL OF DETECTOR!

The person paid the 1000euros and after blessed me... cause he found at least 10 times worth (I don't know exactly) the "expense" small "treasure" within 2months. And still ask for newer... lighter GSIV I will never produce... cause as said, I don't sell stuff... and not interested in that at all.

Then I made 2nd GSIV using a PCB design (indeed really large PCB! but read further...) provided me by a friend who gave me permission of using his design JUST for me. Made it, tuned it... and works HELL GOOD!
I gave him back a complete assembled and tuned one (the 3rd one)... to thank him for the PCB design stuff... (so I made at that point 3 GSIV).

Unfortunately the 2nd one was missing in action... I borrow it to a team of people and still I haven't it back... maybe can't get it never again I think... but doesn't matter.

This one you see in pictures is the 4th GSIV of the series... using , always, magic/large PCB design, one sided PCB! and as always works like HELL.
As you can see the box is recycled one from an old analog sat receiver... (indeed is large PCB inside) and battery pack is made of NiMh cells but can be replaced with other stuff (and actually is for longer run) about easy.
Some part of assembly is different from original design of GSIV to optimize performance and stability.
The box is then carried using a shouder strap thing... with larger coil 1mx1m the device can also work as depth PI... if for beach/coins a small coil 8'' round w/ pole employed... and connected by the rear 4 poles connector + small lenght of low capacitance cable.

After I faced the bricks/pottery problem issue I used not much this GSIV... I had another upgraded in developing phase at that time... but I cancelled the project cause switched full time to VLFs. So I must have the 5th half assembled somewhere...

Also I made some modification boards to add functions to the original (like double pulsing) but this is another topic.

So... think what you want...
maybe you're 30+ years in electronics but have no luck with MDs ... I don't know.

I can only say that what's reported about GSIV, schematics and everything is plain truth... just you have to make mods and fine tuning for top performances... as with all other MDs for that matter!

PS: please people here don't ask for units, or PCB files or tuning procedures or other details... I cannot provide anything of that...don't like repeat stuff forever.

Kind regards,
Max

[kt315]

PS: please people here don't ask for units, or PCB files or tuning procedures or other details... I cannot provide anything of that...don't like repeat stuff forever.

GOD BLESS YOU! don't be worry about it, I due will ask these nothing from you!
great story enough.

[Rov]

Nice Max,I wont ask for details from you,Im glad you were offer 1000 euro for your unit.
But 1000 euro is chump change $$$ for some electronic project Ive been paid for,an i do work in the Satellite Industry,an dont have to borrow an old settop box case to put it in.
But I dont know all about MD technology,an a lot is very new to me,an much info is not helpfull?As other Forum members Find,like myself!
But Im gratefull still for what I get,to better understand,an build a project or two.that hopefully may work without major surgery. Glad you understand it so well!
Next bring on a Nokta detector clone as a project? That would be interesting,something with a 3d Lcd display an Optimised softwares ,driven by Pc...Aziz Maybe is the man?
Best Regards Rov

[Max]

PS: please people here don't ask for units, or PCB files or tuning procedures or other details... I cannot provide anything of that...don't like repeat stuff forever.

GOD BLESS YOU! don't be worry about it, I due will ask these nothing from you!
great story enough.

You don't like the package maybe ???

Well... me too... but I haven't anything suitable for such LARGE PCB!
So... scraped the analog sat thing... and put the GS4 inside!

Kind regards,
Max

[Qiaozhi]

Nokta - Golden King

There's one for sale on UK ebay ->
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...link:middle:uk

[Qiaozhi]

There's one for sale on UK ebay ->
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...link:middle:uk

As you might have expected, it didn't sell ... BUT ... it was been re-listed for £100 less, and currently has 1 bid.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=230356314197

[Qiaozhi]

There's one for sale on UK ebay ->
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...link:middle:uk

As you might have expected, it didn't sell ... but, it was been re-listed for £100 less, and currently has 1 bid.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=230356314197

Note: User ID kept private (to protect the embarrassed buyer).

[kt315]

according to what I did read in a forum bulgarian man claims in private ICQ chat these guys do NOT get back purchased Nokta. they say like to 'hey guy you HAVE been seen the detector is working yourself here, so go out'.
so think... cashe test is more interesting subject, guys.

[Ronin]

Hi buddies,
You are talking about DPR-deep processing radar- or or a total scam of Nokta. As i m a Turkish citizen, really sorry about the purchasers of Nokta Detectors abroad. They are really making scams with a lot of huge advertisings for toys.
One guy mentioned that they went to NOKTA and tested in their field. Yes they have field with full of cheating that never resembles real ground territories.
Before with their Nokta 106 which is a scam also, they were trying inside the shop and showing to people that it detects from 2m away one gold bracalet!!! How it is possible with a simple 12,5Khz VLF metal detector?
Yes if the mentioned firm is Nokta everything with cheating is possible.

Nokta earned really huge amount of money from Turkish Tr.hunters, this is a fact. But when the day came and people came to know the detectors they made is not working as they demonstrated in ads and field they rebelled and now Nokta has a very bad name in Turkish market and not able sell detectors. So what they made?
They started to export by having some non-caring only selling targeted companies such as Kellyco and many others. Poor you are.

This Golden King or Princess is a simple VLF detector that furnished with lots of useless aspects. Nokta 106 which is a simple and very bad working VLF detector has been covered by LCD screen and put some more big coils for it.
Check it out: their all detectors work with 12,5KHZ even 10 years back one even Golden Princess. They do not have technology but money to cheat and advertise around.

Beware of this stupid Princess. Believe me purchase one Chinese Metal Detector is better than this for depth with the same coils. Believe me they are more stable and easy to carry at least. At least Chinese do not claim that they detectors detect one bracalet from 10m depth or shows cavity and depths

You know how heavy this machine is? OK find out.

You know what the DPR or GPR means? Yes you know but Nokta doesn't know or want to cheat people with wordplayings. 12,5Khz and DPR!!!

No word!!!

Regards,

[Qiaozhi]

Hi buddies,
You are talking about DPR-deep processing radar- or or a total scam of Nokta. As i m a Turkish citizen, really sorry about the purchasers of Nokta Detectors abroad. They are really making scams with a lot of huge advertisings for toys.
One guy mentioned that they went to NOKTA and tested in their field. Yes they have field with full of cheating that never resembles real ground territories.
Before with their Nokta 106 which is a scam also, they were trying inside the shop and showing to people that it detects from 2m away one gold bracalet!!! How it is possible with a simple 12,5Khz VLF metal detector?
Yes if the mentioned firm is Nokta everything with cheating is possible.

Nokta earned really huge amount of money from Turkish Tr.hunters, this is a fact. But when the day came and people came to know the detectors they made is not working as they demonstrated in ads and field they rebelled and now Nokta has a very bad name in Turkish market and not able sell detectors. So what they made?
They started to export by having some non-caring only selling targeted companies such as Kellyco and many others. Poor you are.

This Golden King or Princess is a simple VLF detector that furnished with lots of useless aspects. Nokta 106 which is a simple and very bad working VLF detector has been covered by LCD screen and put some more big coils for it.
Check it out: their all detectors work with 12,5KHZ even 10 years back one even Golden Princess. They do not have technology but money to cheat and advertise around.

Beware of this stupid Princess. Believe me purchase one Chinese Metal Detector is better than this for depth with the same coils. Believe me they are more stable and easy to carry at least. At least Chinese do not claim that they detectors detect one bracalet from 10m depth or shows cavity and depths

You know how heavy this machine is? OK find out.

You know what the DPR or GPR means? Yes you know but Nokta doesn't know or want to cheat people with wordplayings. 12,5Khz and DPR!!!

No word!!!

Regards,

Hi Ronin,

This is very much as we suspected. Why do some people expend so much effort to scam and cheat others, when the same amount of effort could be used to produce something that really works?

2m for a gold bracelet! That's always a big warning sign.

[Qiaozhi]

Is this the Nokta schematic? It was posted in the Schematics forum.

My guess is that it is not from Nokta. Note the two antennas. It's probably an LRL.

[aft_72005]

Is this the Nokta schematic? It was posted in the Schematics forum.

My guess is that it is not from Nokta. Note the two antennas. It's probably an LRL.

Hi Qiaozhi
Yes, it is LRL , published at Turkish site.
It is re uploaded at geotech forum, also I remember dissection about it at the
Past by me and Max.
This is for third time re uploaded .
But , important point , is it work ?
Best regards.

[aft_72005]

This is very much as we suspected. Why do some people expend so much effort to scam and cheat others, when the same amount of effort could be used to produce something that really works?

2m for a gold bracelet! That's always a big warning sign.

When I saw for the first time, nokta web pages. The first question, was
“What technology behind of those?”
At this time I never know any detector be able detected normal size object
With 20-30 cm coil Form six meter under soil. Also remember saw movie in the matter .
Remember dissection about nokta detectors at geotech forum at the past.
But , read and hearing that effort was scam , now .
May be nokta detector designer will be begin new dissection and saying about
What kind technique and technology used.
Best regards.

[kt315]

Nokta topic may be 4 or 5 times I see here. all these threads are ending alike. on minor note. why I do not bring here all garbage I found and see in Global Net?... why the people so like to scum?
in the time Carl's very interesing topic on Cashe Test is still silent... more productive and lot better matter than about Nokta detector...