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  • #76
    OK I've just figured how to ignore Ronin's drivel in this forum as well.

    In any case, I thank Carl for allowing me to express my views in here. If anyone needs help or has more questions on using the Nokta Golden King, feel free to ask me and I will gladly share my experiences.

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    • #77
      Hi,
      from my personal experience... Ronin's thought about pottery/ceramics is absolutely right.

      In many places, with many different layers of different civilizations/ages residual items THERE ARE bricks and pottery.... all kind of fired clay...ceramics and whatever will trigger false signals in your MD... no matter what it is will happen sooner or later... more or less.

      With VLFs things are more "controllable" cause you have accurate geb and can overcome some (not all) magnetic signals from iron oxides and other magnetic crystals in soil and bricks etc

      But man... beware of PIs , beware of two-boxes there....

      You'll detect even aliens there... all kind of false signals will show and so frequently! It's truly disappointing digging 50 holes and found 50 pieces of ceramics and bricks inside!

      I know... and that's why I don't use anymore PIs there...nor I use any two-boxes... I have many of these homemade MDs... but hanged on the wall of garage cause are useless in most GOOD places.

      VLFs are the choice, unique I say.... for such places.

      Then... belive what you want... belive you'll gain X cms depth more with PIs... yes, sure.... then try it really on that soils!
      You'll be surprised.

      I have MDs that detect a cigarettes box sized piece of brick at 50cm!

      What do you think you'll dig all the day if soil is infested of these things and you have such a detector !?

      Then buy nokta, I don't know about it, or whatever you want... but BEFORE test it on real soil...real DANG conditions...I warned you all.

      Didn't I ?

      Kind regards,
      Max

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      • #78
        Max, thank you for your valuable input. To some of us (me in particular), a "false" signal indicating a cavity instead of the actual pottery/bricks is happiness. Not all treasures are made of gold and gems (though they'd be very nice to find too!).

        The soils I frequent are seldom fraught with bricks or pottery, so that which is your bane is my boon. Out of curiosity, which commercially-made VLF detector would you recommend if one was not seeking bricks and pottery?

        BTW, I do agree with the false signal problem with 2 box detectors. It is a major problem in the area I'm working in now, and I've put aside my TF900 and use the Nokta NGR most of the time now.

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        • #79
          Take a look to this clip

          Its the earliest model JEOSONAR


          http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...60462480959175

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          • #80
            Originally posted by Hobbyist View Post
            Max, thank you for your valuable input. To some of us (me in particular), a "false" signal indicating a cavity instead of the actual pottery/bricks is happiness. Not all treasures are made of gold and gems (though they'd be very nice to find too!).

            The soils I frequent are seldom fraught with bricks or pottery, so that which is your bane is my boon. Out of curiosity, which commercially-made VLF detector would you recommend if one was not seeking bricks and pottery?

            BTW, I do agree with the false signal problem with 2 box detectors. It is a major problem in the area I'm working in now, and I've put aside my TF900 and use the Nokta NGR most of the time now.
            Hi,
            commercial VLFs are not perfect, all we know, nor are homemade clones , sure...

            But any VLF with geb is fairly better than ANY PI or two-boxes in that kind of conditions.

            I say that cause tested many commercial and homemade units , that's my experience in such places. Yours maybe different ?

            Then, as said before, if you like detecting caves and bricks it's ok for you rely on PI... if you like why don't ?

            Simply , I don't. Not good for my taste digging bricks and wasting time and efforts for nothing valuable.

            Kind regards,
            Max

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Max View Post
              Hi,
              commercial VLFs are not perfect, all we know, nor are homemade clones , sure...

              But any VLF with geb is fairly better than ANY PI or two-boxes in that kind of conditions.

              I say that cause tested many commercial and homemade units , that's my experience in such places. Yours maybe different ?

              Then, as said before, if you like detecting caves and bricks it's ok for you rely on PI... if you like why don't ?

              Simply , I don't. Not good for my taste digging bricks and wasting time and efforts for nothing valuable.

              Kind regards,
              Max
              Thank you Max. Yes, there is no such thing as the perfect detector. That is why I must add to my modest collection. I have been looking at PI detectors that can operate on land and in salt/fresh water.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by Geoscanner View Post
                Take a look to this clip

                Its the earliest model JEOSONAR


                http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...60462480959175
                A most interesting clip, Geoscanner. Thank you! The Jeosonar looks a lot like the Nokta Golden King. Unfortunately I do not understand the language spoken in the video. Can you please provide a translation of the salient points (eg type of technology, type of target, depth of target). I tried to estimate the depth by referencing the man's height, but that is not accurate.

                I also wonder why the machine did not detect the cavities which had the targets inserted into them. Thank you again for your trouble.

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                • #83
                  Hi my friend.

                  The NOKTA and MAKRO company is not the same.Was partners but after a fight seperate.After this the one partner open a new company the NOKTA. Taken the plants of Jeosonar and made the GOLDEN KING with new graphics.The software is the same , the coils are the same , but not so good like MAKRO.The depths are the same like twins.

                  This machine cannot detect open caves or voids .Only closed for many years.It works perfect for this type of voids and caves.I dont either speak turkish language but i can show you some photos in meters range.No i think is better to show you all the construction of the test field.

                  http://www.makrodedektor.com/eng/urun_alt.asp?c_id=518


                  This one in the first link is my detector ( JEOSONAR ) but the link is only at the Turkish language but you can read the specs in the second link of JEOHUNTER

                  They have not any difference except the two more coils of JEOSONAR


                  http://www.makrodedektor.com/urun_alt.asp?c_id=457



                  http://www.makrodedektor.com/eng/urun_alt.asp?c_id=373


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                  • #84
                    Geoscanner, thank you again for generously sharing the information and answering my question! Good people like you make it worthwhile to come to this forum.

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                    • #85
                      Thank you my friend.If i can do something more for you let me know.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJ2_duKHkBw

                      http://www.makrodedektor.com/videolar.asp?c_id=434

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ox4WYxt_rzQ&hl=el

                      http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...77597298&hl=el

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                      • #86
                        Nokta Golden King on eBay

                        This guy has now tried 3 times to sell this unit secondhand, with no takers on all 3 occasions.

                        Perhaps this will be 4th time lucky!

                        http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=230367170424

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                        • #87
                          I apologize for errors in writing my English is not good





                          Mr.Carl
                          I admire your many devices, and also to experts from The Arabs admire and trust your style unique you are a very honest man



                          Mr.Carl

                          I ask you on your forum stand in my class the world-famous companies against fraud

                          Recommends that all the false friends of businesses
                          That will remind her now, it is persons in the Arab companies to fraudsters


                          My friends

                          I am an Arab and I respect all treasure hunters
                          In any country
                          Tip your
                          These devices are decorative
                          It is not effective
                          And who owns the company
                          Has scandal when all the Arabs
                          Now claims to be from Turkey
                          All devices
                          And on the experience I failed only decoration is not useful or Design



                          Fraudulent largest in the world every word of caution with a lie

                          Do not listen to them, never, never


                          Will never mentioning one of the largest fraudulent companies to the smallest I will come back







                          Best regards

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                          • #88
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                            1. The device explores for 30m depths.
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                            1. The main unit.
                            2. Electronic receiving unit for signals.
                            3. Developed Dell Mobile to analysis the signal and guidance.
                            4. Educational CD.
                            5. International ensure for a year.
                            6. An Arabic and English catalog.
                            7. Reinforced Aluminum bag to protect the device from inside.

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                            • #89
                              The announcement of the fraudulent company in the world do not believe she


                              http://www.geotech1.com/forums/showt...t=15251&page=2

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                              • #90
                                He thinks that people does not have them in the search for gold and treasures for many years is looking for people idiots must warn everyone of them

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