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    John Becker (all tributes to his geniallity) posted very interesting project in EPE Magazine, May 2001 issue - "PIC Graphics L.C.D. Scope". It is simple, one-channel scope based on PIC16F877, using LCD graphics module 128 x 64.
    Splendid little one project!
    Most benefitial is its size - it is very small and compact, yet doing pretty descent job, covering majority of amateur measurements. It can show scope vaweform, amplitude value and frequency at the same time on display. Low consumption and very compact.

    Looking at Tinkerers PI project and reading his interesting discoveries i got also interesting idea; how about if we include John Becker's scope in finall md design? Instead of projecting other way of indication, we can simply use already made scope and include it in md design with use as detailed indication of some processes in device. With some multilateral switch it could be switched between check points in design and observed various points of Tx-ed or Rx-ed signal, as well as to scope finall output signal which usually goes to indication stage (audio,scale or whatever).
    Scope is small and compact with low consumption, it could be easy included. Doesnt occupies much space but offers more features than ordinary indication we are used to meet so far.

    Tinkerer posted few scoped shots in his project thread. Same could be monitored via this compact scope.

    This also could be used as an upgrade to any other md project...

    How about that?

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  • #2
    PCB dimensions are 58x84mm + LCD 128x64 (packed over), so it can be packed in suitable md enclosure in manner not to take to much space. Besides, usuall PI (better ones) detectors are already packed in a bit larger enclosures. Most of those do have extra space inside already. Or it can be packed in own enclosure and added as extended option to any detector.
    Personally i like this project a lot, splendid, but i dont like enclosure presented in article. Could be much better.

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    • #3
      I just played a bit with Corel, just to see how it could possibly look when included in some design. I took as example my previously made panels for TGSL and Delta Pulse...
      Well...it was just skim sketch...few minutes job. Even so, it is not bad at all..
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      • #4
        Nice looking ... but to be useful this seems difficult and sophisticated job. I think that this can be made to recognize some objects but a lot of hi-tech engineering is needed.

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        • #5
          Not exactly. If you visit Tinkerers thread ;

          http://www.geotech1.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=53

          you can see what he posted there. What operater need is just good understanding of signal behavior.
          Also front panel LCD frame part could be "calibrated" (divided and graphically ilustrated) for better understanding. For example at TGSL and simillar devices, origin TX phase can be printed on LCD frame (simillar to Garrett's LCD's) and later on LCD operater can follow phase shift at RX. Just an example.
          Originally i got this idea looking at Tinkerers shots. But this can be arranged anyhow. That's why i posted this idea here, to hear and collect more ideas...

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          • #6
            Just simple example....
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            • #7
              Originally posted by ivconic View Post
              Just simple example....
              ivconic,

              a scope view would be great. What is the bandwidth of the scope?

              Tinkerer

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              • #8
                Here an open project, very simple too :

                http://www.semifluid.com/?p=15

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Tinkerer View Post
                  ivconic,

                  a scope view would be great. What is the bandwidth of the scope?

                  Tinkerer
                  It covers audio range as author stated. Should be enough for most of the projects we have here on forum.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by ivconic View Post
                    John Becker (all tributes to his geniallity) posted very interesting project in EPE Magazine, May 2001 issue - "PIC Graphics L.C.D. Scope". It is simple, one-channel scope based on PIC16F877, using LCD graphics module 128 x 64.
                    Splendid little one project!
                    Most benefitial is its size - it is very small and compact, yet doing pretty descent job, covering majority of amateur measurements. It can show scope vaweform, amplitude value and frequency at the same time on display. Low consumption and very compact.

                    Looking at Tinkerers PI project and reading his interesting discoveries i got also interesting idea; how about if we include John Becker's scope in finall md design? Instead of projecting other way of indication, we can simply use already made scope and include it in md design with use as detailed indication of some processes in device. With some multilateral switch it could be switched between check points in design and observed various points of Tx-ed or Rx-ed signal, as well as to scope finall output signal which usually goes to indication stage (audio,scale or whatever).
                    Scope is small and compact with low consumption, it could be easy included. Doesnt occupies much space but offers more features than ordinary indication we are used to meet so far.

                    Tinkerer posted few scoped shots in his project thread. Same could be monitored via this compact scope.

                    This also could be used as an upgrade to any other md project...

                    How about that?
                    Ivconic as usual has nose for interesting things.

                    I think this project also has USB interface, no? I think that is interesting too, sound cards sound more difficult to me...

                    Cheers,

                    -SB

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                    • #11
                      Check this video out on youtube. This guy uses a standard 4 line by 20 charactor lcd display to graph the decay curve of a pulse detectorin real time. Pretty clever! He may even be a member here? Maybe someone can translate more of the info? Also see his related vids.

                      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfEug...eature=channel

                      Mark

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                      • #12
                        Here is another with sound.

                        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6l-UO...eature=channel

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                        • #13
                          I think that this hi-tech MD should have some kind of memory with many etalon curves and processor which must to compare this etalon curves with the object signal. This means a lot of programming and development … but of course it is possible ...

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