Jeohunter - Visual Ground Scanner

[Govind]

If the ground is not contaminated with iron, then a PI with a large frame (which can be dismantled) may be all you need. Such as the Lorenz:
http://www.metaldetectors.de/uk/index.htm
Look at the 1 x 1m frame coil:
http://www.metaldetectors.de/uk/accessories.htm
The use of a large frame will mean that smaller targets will automatically be ignored anyway. Of course, there will not be any ferrous (iron) / non-ferrous (non-iron) discrimination. You could then use a standard discriminating VLF detector to check any targets found with the PI, and if it cannot detect them at all, it will be a deep object worth digging.

Instead of the PI, you could also try using a 2-box detector, such the TM808 from Whites:
http://whites.co.uk/tm-808-metal-detector.html
http://media.whiteselectronics.com/m...n%20Manual.pdf
Note, like the PI, there is no discrimination.

Hi Qiaozhi,

How good is Loranz. I dont see any great reviews about the product. and more over i dont see anywhere the depth mentioned, and also is there a way to know how deep is the object burried even that info is missing. Perhaps I have not gone through the product details in detail. So I will go by your word. You also mentioned that "You could then use a standard discriminating VLF detector to check any targets found with the PI, and if it cannot detect them at all, it will be a deep object worth digging." that mean I need to buy another VLF detector for detecting small objects at shallow depth. Once again thanks for your help.

Regard
Govind

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Qiaozhi,

How good is Loranz. I dont see any great reviews about the product. and more over i dont see anywhere the depth mentioned, and also is there a way to know how deep is the object burried even that info is missing. Perhaps I have not gone through the product details in detail. So I will go by your word. You also mentioned that "You could then use a standard discriminating VLF detector to check any targets found with the PI, and if it cannot detect them at all, it will be a deep object worth digging." that mean I need to buy another VLF detector for detecting small objects at shallow depth. Once again thanks for your help.

Regard
Govind

The Lorenz seems to be a popular detector with relic hunters. It is extremely well built, and good quality. Detectors that show how deep a target is buried, make an assumption that the target is a coin. It is a guess based on the amplitude of the received signal. PI detectors with large frames do not have this feature, because there is no common target on which to base the reading. Yes, I am suggesting that you might also want to purchase a discriminating detector, to make a comparison on any interesting targets, before actually digging a hole.

[Funfinder]

Hello Funhunter/ Ishtar,
May I know what is the difference between Basic and Dual Jeohunter, are they the same. There's a 2-year Joehunter for sale, is it still the same software with the new model? Please reply...

Fordranger

Hi Fordranger,

basic comes with standard 45cm coil, dual has small LED-system & small coil, standard coil and 1m deep-search frame. Firmware should be pretty the same.

I don't know for how much money you can get it, but perhaps you can save alot money and for usual search the Jeohunter with standard search-coil (but this model also would work with the 1m coil) works very good. I've been hunting yesterday with the Jeohunter and found a 200yo 2cm iron-shrapnell-ball around 15cm deep - and larger stuff you will detect really deep.

Good luck with your decision.

[Govind]

The Lorenz seems to be a popular detector with relic hunters. It is extremely well built, and good quality. Detectors that show how deep a target is buried, make an assumption that the target is a coin. It is a guess based on the amplitude of the received signal. PI detectors with large frames do not have this feature, because there is no common target on which to base the reading. Yes, I am suggesting that you might also want to purchase a discriminating detector, to make a comparison on any interesting targets, before actually digging a hole.

Hi Qiaozhi, Thanks for your reply. Loranz seems to be pretty expensive. the deep max x5 and x6 around 7000 to 9000 dollars respectively. And if i have to buy another vlf detector i need to spend another 5000 like joehunter. That would exceed my budget. As i am new to metal detecting i am bit worried to spend roughly 15000 dollars. Even after spending this much mony i am not sure if i will find anything useful hidden. Are there any cheap alternatives.
How about i buy whites TM 808 and joehunter which is in my budget. Your help is highly appericated
Thanks
G

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Qiaozhi, Thanks for your reply. Loranz seems to be pretty expensive. the deep max x5 and x6 around 7000 to 9000 dollars respectively. And if i have to buy another vlf detector i need to spend another 5000 like joehunter. That would exceed my budget. As i am new to metal detecting i am bit worried to spend roughly 15000 dollars. Even after spending this much mony i am not sure if i will find anything useful hidden. Are there any cheap alternatives.
How about i buy whites TM 808 and joehunter which is in my budget. Your help is highly appericated
Thanks
G

If you have budget constraints, then I would buy a TM808 and a top of the range VLF detector. Personally, I'd forget about the Jeohunter. (My apologies to FunFinder.)

[hung]

Govind, where are you from and what is your budget?

I have already personally tested a tm808 and a gemini. Both of them 2box detectors.
They don't even come close to the Mineoro 08MI and much less to a MP10 top of the line unit from the same manufacturer.

The MP10 is the most powerful 2box on earth today.
We used to have one in the team when my partner was alive. It's incredible. Once I witnessed my friend recovering a tiny gold object with it something impossible for a regular two box detector.
This is due to the fact that all Mineoro 2boxes feature a concept that the inventor Damasio included inside each one of them. Based on his discovery about the fields emanating from long time buried metals and in this case, gold, being the one producing the largest emanation span angle, he could implement a special receiving circuit inside enabling their devices to detect long time buried metals also from a distance
The device first captures these fields with VU activity, the user follows the direction and when aproaching the sound generator starts to work until exactly over the target.

The 08MI is the same as MP10 only a little less powerful. The first person I came to know recovering a cache of gold coins using a Mineoro 2box, in this case a 08MI, was Mr. Anisio Trelha when in 1969 his 08MI triggered a signal from 120 meters away (360 feet) and walked to the location of the buried coins.
The longer that a gold target is buried, the stronger the signal is. A small gold object produces 'an electric image' much bigger enabling the detector to sense it.

Recently I could get on the Brazilian ebay a true classic gem. A first generation 08MI from 1984 still featuring the original vernier from 1969 and the same vintage circuit.
This two box allow me not only to discriminate gold from iron with VU inversion but also to tell the depth of target.
The guy who sold me told that it used to belong to his father who is now deceased. The seller is a dentist and have no interest in treasure hunting. So he decided to sell.
Boy I was lucky! The minute I saw the ad, I imediately hit the 'buy' comand.

Forget about Jeohunter. If you need images, just get Tim William's ARC geo Logger and use it with the 08MI for instance.

I know that some dealers in Europe offer Mineoro two boxes.

If you have any other questions, drop me a private message.
Good luck.

[WM6]

Be avare!

Hung is known scammer and this is pure fraudulent apparatus promotion as usual from his side.

Your money will "gone with the wind".

[hung]

You're hillarious dude.
So I am doing the promotion when you are the one who displays a big MD logo in your post?

And making things even worse, claims that some toy is God?
Now you know why I have never started a salute discussion with you... You're just not worth it.

You call me a scammer. So I call you a criminal.
Attempting false accusations against somebody is crime.
Well, don't know about it where you come from.

You are a perfect example of the ones who do not respect other members and thanks to you this forum is going each time deeper into 'decorum' degeneration.

[der_fisherman]

Talking about ridiculous claims from Scammers

You're hillarious dude.
So I am doing the promotion when you are the one who displays a big MD logo in your post?
And making things even worse, claims that some toy is God?
Now you know why I have never started a salute discussion with you... You're just not worth it.
You call me a scammer. So I call you a criminal.
Attempting false accusations against somebody is crime.
Well, don't know about it where you come from.
You are a perfect example of the ones who do not respect other members and thanks to you this forum is going each time deeper into 'decorum' degeneration.

Dear Hung,
some might even say you should be..... but just from reading your previous post demonstrates not only that you are most likely not quite Kosher, but the claims you make are so ridiculous, they demonstrate an almost complete lack of understanding of the way metal detection actually works.
If your claims had been more within the realms of reality, some of us might have believed you more.....but well over 100 meter(?) from something handheld, never ever....made in 1969 I believe you said?
I am sure that there is large heavy equipment around that can detect metal at long distances, but I personally have never heard of such stuff.....but handheld???
Let me say that I am REALLY skeptical and I would need a few of the outstanding members (there are a lot of them far better informed than I am) here supporting you fully before I would even start to believe any of your claims......I bet I am not alone either....
I wish you both a great day and hope that you can both agree to disagree....

[Govind]

Govind, where are you from and what is your budget?

I have already personally tested a tm808 and a gemini. Both of them 2box detectors.
They don't even come close to the Mineoro 08MI and much less to a MP10 top of the line unit from the same manufacturer.

The MP10 is the most powerful 2box on earth today.
We used to have one in the team when my partner was alive. It's incredible. Once I witnessed my friend recovering a tiny gold object with it something impossible for a regular two box detector.
This is due to the fact that all Mineoro 2boxes feature a concept that the inventor Damasio included inside each one of them. Based on his discovery about the fields emanating from long time buried metals and in this case, gold, being the one producing the largest emanation span angle, he could implement a special receiving circuit inside enabling their devices to detect long time buried metals also from a distance
The device first captures these fields with VU activity, the user follows the direction and when aproaching the sound generator starts to work until exactly over the target.

The 08MI is the same as MP10 only a little less powerful. The first person I came to know recovering a cache of gold coins using a Mineoro 2box, in this case a 08MI, was Mr. Anisio Trelha when in 1969 his 08MI triggered a signal from 120 meters away (360 feet) and walked to the location of the buried coins.
The longer that a gold target is buried, the stronger the signal is. A small gold object produces 'an electric image' much bigger enabling the detector to sense it.

Recently I could get on the Brazilian ebay a true classic gem. A first generation 08MI from 1984 still featuring the original vernier from 1969 and the same vintage circuit.
This two box allow me not only to discriminate gold from iron with VU inversion but also to tell the depth of target.
The guy who sold me told that it used to belong to his father who is now deceased. The seller is a dentist and have no interest in treasure hunting. So he decided to sell.
Boy I was lucky! The minute I saw the ad, I imediately hit the 'buy' comand.

Forget about Jeohunter. If you need images, just get Tim William's ARC geo Logger and use it with the 08MI for instance.

I know that some dealers in Europe offer Mineoro two boxes.

If you have any other questions, drop me a private message.
Good luck.

Hi Hung,
I am from India, but I stay in New Jersey USA. Most of my field work and
experiments will be in the remote forests of India, where there are no
habitants at all and we have much older than 13th century forts and palaces which are
Untouched till today. My requirement is I need a good detector which can detect objects
atleast 3 to 4 meters deep on dry ground with no mineralization.
My Budget is around 6 to 7 thousand US dollars.
can you give me your private id.
Thanks
G

[Govind]

If you have budget constraints, then I would buy a TM808 and a top of the range VLF detector. Personally, I'd forget about the Jeohunter. (My apologies to FunFinder.)

Hi Qiaozhi
Can you name some of the top of line VLF detectors other than joehunter.
Thanks
G

[Qiaozhi]

Hi Qiaozhi
Can you name some of the top of line VLF detectors other than joehunter.
Thanks
G

I'll send you a PM.

[hung]

Hi Hung,
I am from India, but I stay in New Jersey USA. Most of my field work and
experiments will be in the remote forests of India, where there are no
habitants at all and we have much older than 13th century forts and palaces which are
Untouched till today. My requirement is I need a good detector which can detect objects
atleast 3 to 4 meters deep on dry ground with no mineralization.
My Budget is around 6 to 7 thousand US dollars.
can you give me your private id.
Thanks
G

Alright Govind, give me some time and I will try to send you a private message until late tomorrow.
Based on what you describe you have some options. I will review them with you.
Regards.

[Funfinder]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Govind
Hi Qiaozhi, Thanks for your reply. Loranz seems to be pretty expensive. the deep max x5 and x6 around 7000 to 9000 dollars respectively. And if i have to buy another vlf detector i need to spend another 5000 like joehunter. That would exceed my budget. As i am new to metal detecting i am bit worried to spend roughly 15000 dollars. Even after spending this much mony i am not sure if i will find anything useful hidden. Are there any cheap alternatives.
How about i buy whites TM 808 and joehunter which is in my budget. Your help is highly appericated
Thanks
G

If you have budget constraints, then I would buy a TM808 and a top of the range VLF detector. Personally, I'd forget about the Jeohunter. (My apologies to FunFinder.)

@ Qiaozhi
Accepted - but may I ask what are your concerns?

The Jeohunter is the same good as the Nexus Ultimate and it's development is for real depth and for additional use with very powerful 1m coil. I have this coil already and I will make some tests in the near future so you will see how much depth-power the Jeohunter really has in it.


@ Govind
In your case - because you're a beginner - Qiaozhi's right - better not use the Jeohunter - could be too complicated, heavy and expensive for you.

You can buy a two-box but you can't carry shovel and stuff together with it - this may be a big problem for jungle-expeditions!
However 2box would be good for larger sized stuff that's deeper.

Or you can buy a PI with 50cm coil for around 1000-2000 dollars.
(a few of them have some kind of discrimination)

For beginning you also can order the MD-5008 from ebay for 250 dollars - just to get used with MDs at all.

Or you can get the Garrett GTI2500 with 2in1: 2box depth frame coil and 30cm coil (order additional Detech 40cm Excelerator for much more depth)

Good luck getting started and don't spent too much money!

PS dont forget the Garrett Pro-Pinpointer for fast recovering of the targets.

[Qiaozhi]

@ Qiaozhi
Accepted - but may I ask what are your concerns?

I do not think it is suitable for Govind, as it will be too difficult for him to use. Also, I have seen a Nokta Golden King in action (which is similar to the Jeohunter) and personally I didn't like it. The owner had used it for about a year, and still had to refer to the user manual and the DVD to remember how to use it properly. This seems to be confirmed by some of your previous postings. The description of how to ground balance the device was horrendous. I thought the Nokta was cumbersome, difficult to see the display in sunlight, and gave erratic results. Maybe that's just my opinion, but I wouldn't recommend it to anyone. Sorry.