Jeohunter - Visual Ground Scanner

[WM6]

I really regret it to post all those MD-schematics here for free so that such an unthankful, untechnical and unfair person like you could get them.
But you never will get anything from me again!

Yours schematics? All "yours" schematic are stollen, mostly right from here - from Geotech forums. And all very known to all literate detectorist.

Next time, before you publish foreign intellectual property under your own name, cite the source, otherwise it is a simple theft.

Be calm Funfinder, others are not to blame if you throw money away for that unusable toy-box of jeohunter.

And stop to promote those crappy thing here on technical forum.

[Funfinder]

btw. I found out that my test result was even better than the value described in the Jeohunter manual or homepage:

depth - object size (square)
56cm - 5x5cm
75cm - 10x10cm
110cm - 20x20cm
132cm - 30x30cm
154cm - 40x40cm
176cm - 50x50cm
189cm - 60x60cm
Max. depth: 6-8 meter

We read 189cm with 60x60cm objects so at 200cm it would be a size of around 70x70cm, but the alucase just was 46x33cm which is much smaller, almost the half!

Testing a 9cm diameter cannonball vs. a 9cm plate there wasn't much difference in distance, even if the mass is 10times higher! Both were around 80cm in air which is again better as written in the manual!

And, the Jeohunter worked very stable, didn't drift in direction cavity (more lower beeps) until the 15 Volts accu pack reached the lower 1/3 of power. But this was at 100% sensitivity and you still can work another 2 hours with good success until the accu is completly empty!

[WM6]

189cm - 60x60cm
Max. depth: 6-8 meter

Hi Funfinder

obviously you do not even realize how ridiculous is this your imaginary promotion test of your fancy boxes.

Everything is just your imagination. Unfortunately limited to deny herself.

Say, exactly 189? Not about 185, not about 190, but exactly 189?

If you ever doing such a test would not be able to write such nonsense.

Please follow the rules of Tech Forum and stop to advertise Jeohunter useless toys here.

[Funfinder]

Test #3 and #4

WM6 needs something to write - but who cares? Not me!
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The both new tests from today will show the larger distances.

First there is an iron-door 160x100cm in size. It got detected by around 2.7 to 2.8 Meters at 90% sensitivity and iron on:

http://www.multiupload.com/SM0TZ70MH4

Second the electricity-pylon - 260cm broad and over 12m high. The Jeohunter found the iron-parts (not to forget that most of this mast "consists of air") from 3.80m with remaining 1/3 accu-power. As you can hear absolutly no disturbance by the very near power-lines! Again 90% sensitivity and iron on as you can see in the video:

http://www.multiupload.com/P7B21Q1X1U

With 100% sensitivity the results would have been even better but I wanted to show very clear signals.

So as you can see the Jeohunter really goes very deep. Believe me or not, but those videos are authentic and no fakes, 'cause for me I don't care if it goes 20cm more or less far - the distances are great anyway.

But of course in practise you wont dig irondoors but focus on deep stuff from 10x10cm to 50x50cm size. As the alucase test has shown you will find those objects from 80cm to 2meters depth - which is, believe it or not, almost too deep to dig by hand! Even a 30cm deep hole already is a nice work.

Have fun out there!

[WM6]

Hi Funfinder, by method pictured here, you can easily detect single coin at 11,93m. By every adveritising of your Nintendo MD posted here you are more and more funny.

Anyone who tried to wave with that awkward and heavy coil got in only half an hour severe inflammation of the elbow. Very health hazard toy this Jeohunter.

[Ronin]

Dear funfinder i really appreciate to your effort for this device. Well done.
Can you please tell us, in 1st video, what is left side of the iron door that device all the time gives signal of your each left move?

Can you please tell us, is this device motion or non-motion vlf?

Can you please tell us this DD coil can detect from edges also or only in the mid of the coil?

I ain't watch 2nd video up till now, when i watch it, will write here back.

Regards

[Funfinder]

Hi ronin and welcome back!

How works the trial against makrodedector? I've heard you are or have been an unsatisfied MD-reseller...

Left and right of the iron door is a wall of rock, and 3-4 meters before on the left side is nothing than a tree!

The Jeohunter is non-motion as far as I know (which is better for such a large coil so you can take your time while searching and it doesn't create all those erratic signals like motion VLFs do) but I made those fast swings to demonstrate how fast someone can sweep over the ground without breaking off the signal. And if you watch closely you will recognise that on the left side the signal stops the same like on the right side.


Shure it can also detect from edges, but this depends how near the metal is and in what angle the coil stands. In fact it can detect metal even 1m near the coil-level. This is logical because the radiation is elyptic and if it detects up to 5m or more in depth it also detects 2m around the coil - depending on the size of the metal.

If you asked this because of the "size-detection" the solution is very simple:

The coil moved with a wide angle and I didn't walked parallel "over" the target. This and because of the "border-of-detection-distance" from where the steel-door was found is the reason why it wasn't detected for a longer time. But of course if I have time and lust I can also make a movie about such and "object-size" detection.

See Ya.

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If you're curious what's behind the mysterious door:

[Ronin]

Dear my buddy jeohunterfunfinder
Your suppliers Makro and Nokta does not like Ronin in Turkey at all. Because in here Nokta and Makro really has a very very bad reputation due to our critics on forums. Critics are all the time depending on a proof. Not bla bla. Actually, since the last 5 years your guyz that much cheated people, we do not need even to critic them on Turkish forums. People came to know what and how they are. So, it is pretty obvious you are informed by your suppliers about Ronin. Yes, if whoever critics on their devices, is becoming an MD seller. This is clear misleading info from the backfired sellers.

2nd point: This device is not capable of detecting from the edges at all. Do not misinform the members in here. Its the most sensitive point is center of the coil. And even if you say detects from edges it will detect when the metal is very close to coil, not from the same distance as detected from 2.7m(check your video, center is giving signal from the same distance that false signals are got from left move-the same distance, correct?).
Please can you make us sure if this device when you put on the ground, is not giving signal to the ground?(Because you didn't ground balance it right?).

It must be non-motion of course otherwise how it could be carried for 15min or more! . I m hearing in video, your igh ighs while moving that heavy coil

You must also know, with non-motion heavy detectors within how many hours will be searched even a small field!

I watched out your 2nd video also. The same false signals are there.

Kind regards

[Funfinder]

Hi ronin,

your critic is ok but stop it making funny jokes out of my nick.

> Critics are all the time depending on a proof

But not the way you and WM6 make critic. Definitive not!
While at least your critic has some substance - from your point of view of course.

Well, if you say you are or was not a frustrated reseller, it stands statement against statement. We can't prove it.

But your interpretation of the videos is really wrong.

At 90% you will get some beeps because of the high sensitivity and this has nothing to with your conclusions.

And because the radiation field is oval of course there is no absolutly exact edge detection, but for shure you can recognise the circa size and depth.

But why the hell I talk to you at all if you will believe anyway just your own view of things?

Shure you can make ground balance but with air test this was not necessary - the GB was at +150 - don't you think it's ridicilous coming up with ground balance in air and indoor air tests?

My "igh igh" was one time and it was because of concentrating filming and holding the coil "multitasking" style. And shure the coil is more heavy if holded completly horizontally compared to searching on the ground. No point in criticizing this at all, but because you can't effectivly attack the Jeohunters technical abilities, you have to try it with such cheap and meaningless things.


Ronin, you just don't get it - the same with the second video!

The Jeohunter was at 90%, the coil was moving around me, a large electricity pylon is nearby (btw. also near the steel-door, those was just 60m away!) and in the other hand I had a digicam! So how the hell can you even dream about that there should be NO "false" signals?

Not to forget that the coil swung 1m30 above the ground but also not perfectly always with the same hight!

All this facts concerned the Jeohunter was very stable even at 90%. Not for you, this is clear. I wonder if you ever have been outside treasurehunting with your Jeosonar or just did test it inside some rooms like in your video!

If macrodedector has bad reputation inside Turkey this is no wonder:
"The prophet doesn't coun't in his own country." This is everywhere in the world the same.

Every MD has its advantages and disantvantages and if you can't cope with them, simply adjust the best fitting MD to you. And what was this comment about searching a field? You don't think you will be faster searching a football field with a light detector and "mini-coil" which you have to swing 5 times per squaremeter?! And I say it again: The most of the time you will dig if your detector finds something and not running around. Perhaps not if you have a cheap detector where the holes just are 5cm deep because the MD doesn't goes deeper!


Forget for a second about me, Ronin and please tell us:
What do you criticising really:
- the price
- the weight
- the persons of makrodedectör

You can't tell us that the electronic and deep-search power is so bad as you like to make think everything. So it must be one of the three above points or something else beyond the "technical data". This may be sad and an important point for you but it's not fair to mix this up with the valuable functions of the Jeohunter.

You should be the last for complains because you are from Turkey and had the possibility to test this device before you buy it! If you hold it in your hands and think it's to unconvinient or the depth doesn't match up just go and buy some other detector. Don't tell us you didn't had this chance!

You even can sell your used MDs in Turkey without a big loss of money if you think - after some weeks or months - this kind of detector is not your "pair of shoes".

Instead you try with trick questions to undermine the real capacity of the Jeohunter. Your rage against macrodedector must be really big or you have some other problems or friends that also "hate" those detectors and their creators. Perhaps you are just a person with alot bad luck - I've found already the second time treasure-hunting a 200 year old 9cm cannon-ball with the Jeohunter which was 45-50cm deep!

I wish you that you also will find your luck - with your favorite detector - and that you will see things different than now.

Have a nice day.

[WM6]

I've found already the second time treasure-hunting a 200 year old 9cm cannon-ball with the Jeohunter which was 45-50cm deep!

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Congratulation, Funfinder, historical finding indeed.

But where did 45cm now?

Your words:

"The depth analysis was very accurate - it was around 50cm and the Screen showed 54cm."

After next few months it will be only very accurate 35cm.

[Ronin]

Dear Funfinder, you already admitted my critics with your last message. Anyway, whatever i critic, you won't accept; whatever you defend, you ain't make me convinced. So, better not to negotiate with each other..

Since we are having good relation with uncle Alexander the Great coins, bronze fibulas etc. with my detectors from the depths you are digging out, you seem still digging worthless cannonballs.

BTW, 9cm is a big size, isn't it? So i would be ashamed to say this depth for 38x45cm sized coil in any occasion.

regards,

[Funfinder]

@ Ronin
> So, better not to negotiate with each other..

Very well - peace brother!

It is great if your detector finds fibulas or 3cm coins at 40-50cm - even some bulgarian models for around 500 Euro can find this already, but I wanted a detector that goes really deep and also shows cavity, mineralized stones etc.

btw. I really like the iron-off discrimination of the Jeohunter, because you won't find rusty nails but still valuable iron-objects!

Yesterday I've been in a medieval lead-mine and found a chisel - pix below. If for you are cannonballs etc. are worthless it is your cup of tea, from collector you can get 300 Euro and for me those are very valuable and representing an important part of the history of my village - we had large fights here.

And btw. because you are mockering about the depths of the Jeohunter:

Here: http://kts-electronic.com/content/view/16/57/lang,en/ you will find the Pulse AR III, this is a P.I. detector. After reading or not click on the left side "Technical Data" and compare them with the Jeohunter. Not to forget that Pulse Induction could lead to really horrible results if used in mineralized soil or ground containing mineralized rocks!

You will read (see also below) with the 45cm! diameter coil:
coin 45cm, 10x10cm object: 80cm and maximum searching depth: 250cm

The Jeohunter finds a 3-3,5cm coin still at 35-40cm, a 10x10cm object the same at 80cm but the maximum depth is much better, also the metal distinction and the usage at critical soil! Anyway, good findings, Ronin , perhaps you should visit the Town Lydia in Turkey for hunting some electrum coins.


@ WM6
Who cares if the target is 5cm more or less deeper? And if it has showed 54cm you have to addit the 5cm distance between coil 'n ground while measuring, too.


@ all
If everything works fine the american people can order the Jeohunter in the near future from www.metaldetector.com . You already can ask there if they have em and how much it costs. This is no promotion but only valuable information - you also can go there and test before you buy, and as you can see above I also inform you about alternative detectors - if you prefer other or cheaper "deep searchers".


As someone here told already in other words:
Really better always use a depth detector so you don't miss the big treasure with some cheap coin-hunter if you step over him!

[WM6]

This is no promotion but .....

Sure not, this is only innocent advertising.

[Funfinder]

Jeohunter metal detector Field Test!

I found this interresting new video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S56qbOTAyPE

It is from: http://www.mdetectors.com
biggest MD inet shop of Bulgaria.

I can confirm from my own experience what you see is what you really get!

But mdetectors.com has already the new price:
http://mdetectors.com/product_info.p...roducts_id=197
while it's here http://nuggets.at/TiefenSuche-3-D 500 Euro less.

[cholo manaba]

Yours schematics? All "yours" schematic are stollen, mostly right from here - from Geotech forums. And all very known to all literate detectorist.

Next time, before you publish foreign intellectual property under your own name, cite the source, otherwise it is a simple theft.

Be calm Funfinder, others are not to blame if you throw money away for that unusable toy-box of jeohunter.

And stop to promote those crappy thing here on technical forum.

I ask forgiveness to all the readers of this form, but I believe it is necesary....

TO WM6

Please don´t make an ******* out of yourself (it means don´t be stupid). In no time FunFinder is claiming authory of those schematics, so stop looking at your mirror when critisizing or commenting on someone else´s post.

I just happened to buy the Jeosonar 2 weeks ago and I already found a hoard of bronze and gold axes dated 1340 (according to the curator of the museum). If you don´t believe in those machines, is OK, with me but if you keep givig bad words of it, then stop, because they happen to be great machines, an inexpensive alternative to the really costly OKM machines.


Be warned WM6, either change the recording or just shut up.