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  • #16
    Cont:
    If you like you can also import the default TECHNOLOGY FILE settings at your new design before add any component/net at it. To do so, you should again open "SETTINGS" from menu bar, then click on "TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER" and a window will open. That will have the related tasks used in this new design, for Pad, text, Line, Track, Net, & Netclass styles! You may see that almost all are empty in the side where it is refered to the "... styles in current design". To add the DEFAULT settings you must choose from the existing tech files the "NAME" of the Technology file (probably empty at first time of use) you want to load. Now select the "Default.stf" and you will see that at the right lower part "Styles in Technology file" they will appear the presets used at it. Click on "COPY ALL" button and they will appear also at the left side! Repeat this for every task (NET, track, etc)! Now you re ready to add compnents & nets at them to proceed without any "NET CLASS" warning messages!

    Devote 2-3 hours playing around the settings and libraries of the DesignSpak. After that time you should be able to design on the fly, something!

    It is pitty that while the program is the EasyPC CAD renamed for RS marketing purposes, hasn't the ability to accept EasyPC designs and libraries! That is also a vice versa situation fro EasyPC! It is weird that they prefer to accept Eagle files & libraries at both EasyPC & DesignSpark programs and NOT to allow users of EasyPC WHO HAVE PAID FOR IT (many thousand sterlins in all these years), to use DesignSpark for their clients, or to accept the schematics & boards (with the associated libraries) made with DesignSpark by a client of them! That is something that i thing it will be Trojan horse for the EasyPC sales! I for example I;m a bit frustrated by that act! I have paid EasyPC from DOS versions and followed ALL the upgrades (with EasyPC for windows) until now! Why do I have to pay newer upgrades when the exact same program under a "renamed version" is free and complete with many things that even my $$$$ professional EasyPC version doesn't have?

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    • #17
      minime, you make some good points.
      • Why should we, students or amateurs, pay thousands of dollars for software when we can get it free somewhere else?
      • Is the software really free? or are there strings attached? A software that obliges you to order your PCB's from an expensive manufacturer is really not free.


      Below is a link to FARNELL's response to the RS COMPONENTS marketing move.
      http://click.e-marketing.premierfarn...d59c5b50c264e2

      FARNELL is an important international parts supplier who now offers a special edition of EAGLE.

      These marketing schemes by major electronics part suppliers are really clever and show how global the electronics market has become.
      I am sure that the supplying of FREE PCB and simulation software will greatly enhance the sales of these companies in the long run.

      Tinkerer

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      • #18
        Thanks minime for the tips. I'm still not clear on the net class thing. I just added some components to my schematic, but it will not let me connect them because no net class, yet it doesn't help me know what to do. I'll read some more, but a little frustrating that you can't just connect your components by default.

        I agree with your upgrade/compatibility frustrations. It looks like they care more about stealing Eagle users than taking care of their loyal customers...

        Regards,

        -SB

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        • #19
          Hi all
          I want say something. After install Designspark my PC and try with this.. i see it's difficult (same orgad). I am a fine user Orcad, but it's impossible for me study again software for electronics circuits. Simple user-panel for me is better for all. I am commercial designer, after many-many years with Eagle, orcad.etc.. better for all is expresspcb,This is my opinions and never say is better for you, if you like work with other software. With this i can make parts with my opinions without libraries etc
          Never has problem from build prototype PCB with expresspcb. Autorouter? i don't like use. Only for me a poor point is exprot gerber file.
          Here i want your help.
          I listen, there is a free software for mark point-holes inside a PDF file with mouse and then this software calculate export a gerber file. If this is true..please send me a PM.
          Thanks for your time

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          • #20
            Originally posted by minime View Post
            Cont:
            If you like you can also import the default TECHNOLOGY FILE settings at your new design before add any component/net at it. To do so, you should again open "SETTINGS" from menu bar, then click on "TECHNOLOGY TRANSFER" and a window will open. That will have the related tasks used in this new design, for Pad, text, Line, Track, Net, & Netclass styles! You may see that almost all are empty in the side where it is refered to the "... styles in current design". To add the DEFAULT settings you must choose from the existing tech files the "NAME" of the Technology file (probably empty at first time of use) you want to load. Now select the "Default.stf" and you will see that at the right lower part "Styles in Technology file" they will appear the presets used at it. Click on "COPY ALL" button and they will appear also at the left side! Repeat this for every task (NET, track, etc)! Now you re ready to add compnents & nets at them to proceed without any "NET CLASS" warning messages!

            Devote 2-3 hours playing around the settings and libraries of the DesignSpak. After that time you should be able to design on the fly, something!

            It is pitty that while the program is the EasyPC CAD renamed for RS marketing purposes, hasn't the ability to accept EasyPC designs and libraries! That is also a vice versa situation fro EasyPC! It is weird that they prefer to accept Eagle files & libraries at both EasyPC & DesignSpark programs and NOT to allow users of EasyPC WHO HAVE PAID FOR IT (many thousand sterlins in all these years), to use DesignSpark for their clients, or to accept the schematics & boards (with the associated libraries) made with DesignSpark by a client of them! That is something that i thing it will be Trojan horse for the EasyPC sales! I for example I;m a bit frustrated by that act! I have paid EasyPC from DOS versions and followed ALL the upgrades (with EasyPC for windows) until now! Why do I have to pay newer upgrades when the exact same program under a "renamed version" is free and complete with many things that even my $$$$ professional EasyPC version doesn't have?
            Hi minime:

            I tried to do what you said, but there are no ".stf" files in my installation.

            Am I missing something?

            Regards,

            -SB

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            • #21
              DesignSpark

              I worked through the tutorial pdf for DesignSpark and am happier with it.

              When starting a new schematic, if you're a beginner, it is important to check the "Use Technology File" checkbox and choose default.stf . I don't think you'll find a default.stf file anywhere in your files.

              The tutorial was quite good, a few errors here and there.

              For me, setting component values didn't work as described in the tutorial.

              According to the tutorial, you have to double-click the component or component label, select the "Values" tab, and fill in a parameter called "Value". But for me, the parameter wasn't there. I had to add it by clicking the "Add" button to add a parameter, name the new parameter "Value", fill in the value of the parameter, then checkmark the new "Value" parameter so it will show on the schematic. That's a lot of hoops to jump for a very frequent operation. There must be a better way I'm missing, but that's what my installation required.

              When adding a "TO" schema component (labeled connection to another point on the schematic without running wire), they say to right-click it and choose "Display" to see the net-name you give it. Actually, you need to right-click on the wire you connect the "TO" component to to choose the display option.

              The parts list seems good. You need to get to know your libraries. The main ones to get started are "discreet" (generic parts), and "schema" (special schematic objects). The search "ALL" works well though for finding components.

              I didn't see any tool for checking your schematic for unconnected pins or other connection problems. ExpressSCH has that.

              The autoplacer/autorouter makes lots of jumpers on the top side of a double-sided board. I don't know how useful it is.

              Overall it looks like a pretty good program. PCB123 seemed more limited, but if anyone has good things to say about it, always interested to hear.

              -SB

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