OKM Rover CII New

[Leon...]

The exp 5000 was tested in a test to find a BRONZE pan filled with 30 kg aluminum to a depth of 90 cm, but failed ....!!!The test was done 3 times with the same results...
The parcel of appliance exp 5000 pro, had cost roughly 50.000 euro...when it came in Greece...

[Qiaozhi]

the okm soft can locate targets at depth and Surfer don't? and also surfer don't has 3D option? again, either you don't know anything about Surfer or clearly you promote the okm products.

In gndradar's post ( #8 ) he has written a title of "OKM Dealer". In which case, he definitely has a vested interest in promoting their products.

Personally, I have never used OKM's products, so cannot make any first-hand comments. There appear to be strong views on both sides, and it would interesting to hear if there are any positive reviews from users that are not dealers or employees of OKM.

[ivconic]

In gndradar's post (# he has written a title of "OKM Dealer". In which case, he definitely has a vested interest in promoting their products.

Personally, I have never used OKM's products, so cannot make any first-hand comments. There appear to be strong views on both sides, and it would interesting to hear if there are any positive reviews from users that are not dealers or employees of OKM.

Tough!

[Carl-NC]

I have never used any OKM products, and would like to try them at some point. However, I agree with Ivconic, they have for years been advertised as being "GPR" when, in fact, they are not GPR. Why would they make such a claim?

Furthermore, some of the instruments which are clearly magnetometers are shown as being able to image buried gold. I suspect they cannot detect gold at all; at best, they can detect mineralization voids, which could be due to a rock.

Finally, I have an extremely high level of confidence that the "Bionic" LRLs OKM sells are 100% bogus.

All this adds up, in my opinion, to a huge "Caveat Emptor."

[Bill512]

I agree with Ivconic, they have for years been advertised as being "GPR" when, in fact, they are not GPR. Why would they make such a claim?
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Carl,they never will tell you the real reason for this. The truth is that some years ago in Germany, a OKM owner (and close friend ) ,was prosecute OKM for these claims .
The okm machine was inspected by a German technical company and the result for OKM was of course , to lost the case. A full refund right was given by the court of Law to my friend.
From that moment the OKM had no right to use the term "GPR" in Germany.
The okm company owners (former East Germans) often use the misleading term "Ground penetrating devises" and so on.

[ishtar hunter]

A few weaks ago I bought a OKm Rover CII. I wanted to find some tunnels and cavities, but after we checked certain areas we found out that the device can´t pick up signals of tunnels deeper than 3m. We went to a cave we knew and used the CAVEFINDER function. Result: CAVE=NO! Then I went to another cave-same result.
The next step was to go to a tunnel we knew and scanned it with the "GROUNDSCAN" function. We expected to see a greenish bit (solid ground) then a bluish bit(tunnel we crossed) and afterwards another green part! But we saw at the VISUALIZER 3D software just blue dots,lines. Some yellow and green parts. We did several scans-always the same result!
Now I found your forum and read that OKM is crap:-((((
Could it be that I did some mistakes or is it just because the machine is so bad??????
Is here someone who had the same problems, or has someone tried an action against OKM???

Hi
Analysis the visulizer 3D is very difficult and Rule out.... for scan tunnel must the void or tunnel Longer be buried.for okm device don't shoot but don't a very good device you must a long time work by device and don't scan deeper than 3 meter. if you want to detect deeper than 3m for tunnel you must use long range system LRL

[Tim Williams]

I have a friend that has the runabout or something like that and he says it does work somewhat but the unit is picky. Not easy to use. I went up to KY to test a EM-83 over a known tunnel with good results. It started raining and I did not get the chance to do the next plot but the tunnel showed up very well at about 60-80 feet deep.

Coil spacing 50ft
sample interval 10ft
frequency 200hz

Tunnel in blue.

[ishtar hunter]

lrl

Hi tim williams the runabout is a usa product and good detector of okm device but you detect by how detector for tunnel?Do that is a long rang system (LRL)? depth of 80 feet is a medium depth for Archeology. Please tell me you detect by which detector and view your detector site.
thank's so much.

[ishtar hunter]

Sammy, I think you should ask the producer of your machine:
mailto:[email protected]

You are positive person.i see your topic and love your Character.With your permission i add you to my friend list

[ishtar hunter]

sh-t ????????

they are not taken their detectors back. it is their main rule. I have wrote about that time ago... yes, OKM is sh-t, Jeohunter is sh-t... what you want in our world full of naive people with big money cash? think before... ask before... if you pay for crap these people in OKM goes here and advertice their sh-t here in GEOTECH, because they has got your money on Internet work in full-time-active-online-desk mode. what really you can do against this cancer like encephalitis tick bite in the body of GEOTHECH? nothing, my friend. there is hard politics of the forum - not delete the ticks from the body despite the body is still alive or had died.

ha ha ha geohunter is sh-t ??????ooooohhhhh
Think you know.if you don't know please Do not think .i detect by exp4000 a void in 2 meter and detect a Non-ferrous metal in depth of 2.20cm -------so detect by geohunter a small void in 2.50 cm depth and non ferrous metal 25*25 cm in depth of 2 meter you can see my topic in geohunter.

[indy]

A few weaks ago I bought a OKm Rover CII. I wanted to find some tunnels and cavities, but after we checked certain areas we found out that the device can´t pick up signals of tunnels deeper than 3m. We went to a cave we knew and used the CAVEFINDER function. Result: CAVE=NO! Then I went to another cave-same result.
The next step was to go to a tunnel we knew and scanned it with the "GROUNDSCAN" function. We expected to see a greenish bit (solid ground) then a bluish bit(tunnel we crossed) and afterwards another green part! But we saw at the VISUALIZER 3D software just blue dots,lines. Some yellow and green parts. We did several scans-always the same result!
Now I found your forum and read that OKM is crap:-((((
Could it be that I did some mistakes or is it just because the machine is so bad??????
Is here someone who had the same problems, or has someone tried an action against OKM???

This OKM only fluxgate magnetometer !!!!

no working tunnel decting.

sorry to bed news...

[gndradar]

okm device issues

Hi all.if you have any issuss with any okm device then heres what you do. read the
manual from cover to cover. ensure the battery is fully charged. make sire all connections
are fitting correctly. field test it over known targets with recorded surveys.
If it still fails then send photos of the surveyed area and visualiser file to [email protected]
for scientific assessment. they can tell immediately if it is the device or operator error. 9 times
out of 10 its opeeator error. how do i know? Because i went through the same thing.blaming
my device but it turned out to be me. so ifball fails then get in contact with your dealer as we
all offer tech support for the duration you have the device.

"JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT SEE IT DOESNT MEAN ITS NOT THERE"

[indy]

You have to spend money for OKM, to lost your money forever.
I agree 100%

lie !!!!!

[WM6]

"JUST BECAUSE YOU CANT SEE IT DOESNT MEAN ITS NOT THERE"

For OKM is valid this slogan:

"JUST BECAUSE YOU CAN SEE SOMETHING, IT DOESN'T MEAN IT'S THERE"

[smokingdiode]

Sammy, I suspect you have been ripped off take this quote from the OKM site

"During the detection of gold the Bionic Detection Method interacts with the Bio-Energy of the operator's body to analyze minimum changes of object substances. Thereby the Bionic X4 gold detector is able to locate almost all gold objects. Independent of the age of the gold, the Bio-Energy-System can be used to find freshly buried gold, long time buried gold as well as golden artifacts that are not buried."

"interacts with the bio-energy of the operator's body" -> wow, that's special

You may have been scammed see

http://www.thunting.com/smf/metal_de...-t23656.0.html

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,259993.0.html
http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php?topic=180404.0

It seems that the list of excuses for the OKM devices not performing are long and extensive ; batteries not charged enough, soil conditions not right, a metal bit acts as a decoy, obscured by surface trash, not enough different repeatable scan views from different directions, ground faults get in the way, not interpreting the complex squiggles right. I haven't seen one post that convinces me of proof of performance. Testimonials aren't proof. Aggressive reps that insult your intelligence are trying to put you on the back foot to compensate for a product that doesn't work.

Remember dowsing doesn't work. Look up wikipedia. There is NO evidence.
A company that comes up with such phrases as "...Bio-Energy of the operator's body..." is likely to be non-evidence based 100%.

I suggest that instead of buying OKM people just pray for buried treasure. This divination won't work either but it will be a lot cheaper.