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  • #31
    Originally posted by gndradar View Post
    You're entitled to your opinion. I'm not here to persuade you. Your comments have no bearing upon the devices abilities or the line up of customers wanting them. Please continue to chastise and sling your blinkered comments on this forum. Your mum would be so proud of you! I'm heading out to survey for a client now.
    My opinion comes directly from endless test surveys with real magnetometers and OKM .
    Do you know what does a VECTOR MAGNETOMETER?????????????

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    • #32
      Originally posted by ivconic View Post

      One thing we can admit; OKM software that came with their devices is really impressive in how it looks.
      But for me "shiny" software is not what makes the job done on real soil - but quality of device itself.
      ivconic, the OKM software is for sure PRIMITIVE!!! The data interpolation is a joke!
      Have you ever try the well known Surfer???
      the shiny pseudo-colors finely do their job, which is selling.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Bill512 View Post
        ivconic, the OKM software is for sure PRIMITIVE!!! The data interpolation is a joke!
        Have you ever try the well known Surfer???
        the shiny pseudo-colors finely do their job, which is selling.
        I agree.
        No, i haven't seen Surfer yet.
        Is there any demo/trial version on the net? I will look for it.

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        • #34
          Aha! Here it is:

          http://www.rockware.com/product/prod...=129&hide=true

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          • #35
            I like it! Also founded version 8 with serial included.
            Now, would be nice to find a way how to import EPE data format into Surfer!
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            • #36
              5000 expor no better than epe
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              • #37
                You have to spend money for OKM, to lost your money forever.
                I agree 100%

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Alexismex View Post
                  You have to spend money for OKM, to lost your money forever.
                  I agree 100%

                  I use my device commercially and make a very comfortable living from what I do. I am enthused at negativity toward these devices as it allows great earning potential for me. So thank you for your comment. Quick question, have you ever owned any OKM devices?

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                  • #39
                    Primo-tive

                    Originally posted by Bill512 View Post
                    ivconic, the OKM software is for sure PRIMITIVE!!! The data interpolation is a joke!
                    Have you ever try the well known Surfer???
                    the shiny pseudo-colors finely do their job, which is selling.
                    It never cease to amuse me at what crawls under from the techo rocks when someone stands by their technology. You say the OKM software is primitive, I don't have a problem with that. Primitive compared to what device or operating system?

                    I'm sure there's more sophisticated software available, with advancement comes complexity. I have used surfer on a different system. Found it to be archaic, it tries to achieve too much. You don't need all the variation in software, you need to have a device that can locate targets at depth, display it in 3D. Then go dig it up and not be pouring over complex software trying to make heads and tails of the wire diagram in front of you.

                    If you get your kicks wasting your time looking at pretty software instead of digging up your finds then I wish you well! Have you ever owned an OKM device? I doubt it as you would realise how good they are.
                    What system do you currently use? Is it LIVE 3D? What depth of penetration in any soil structure do you get? Feel free to put your money where your mouth is?

                    The point was made that you cant import EPE info into surfer? So in my book it's useless saying how good surfer is? Whilst you try to achieve this I'll be making money from my OKM device.

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                    • #40
                      Thanks

                      Thanks for the information. I had a look at the thread, might build one. OKM devices wont tell the difference in salts as to minerals as they aren't made to. These aren't an anything discriminator rather a deep detector.
                      OKM devices cant make your lunch, wont polish your car, cant fly, dont rub your feet or build you a mansion. They do with great accuracy what they are designed to do. Nothing more nothing less.
                      It doesn't matter what is built or how it is used to what effect. There's always someone read to run it down for their own reasons whether factual or not. For that I don't care, everyone's entitled to their own opinion.
                      I base my opinion on fact and personal experience, forum opinions and discussions don't pay my mortgage or bills. My OKM device does.

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                      • #41
                        If my friend has a 5000 OKM expore ,for three years was purchased with all the equipment, had cost him about 42000evra .do you know what it is found a big nothing ,and all the same,given name was Sirius, expore 4000 or 5000 expore or 12 ug All I could see it in action ,,tested,, except software have anything not specifically ,in relation to the magnetometer epe EPE has just as bad software and no more ,and far lower cost in relation to all these models,but everyone left to think for himself .

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                        • #42
                          Everyone thinks for themselves, what is best for him.

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                          • #43
                            okm senzor 4000
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                            • #44
                              1+1+5 = 7 , 2+2+3=7 STI TASK solved in Two Ways
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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by gndradar View Post
                                It never cease to amuse me at what crawls under from the techo rocks when someone stands by their technology. You say the OKM software is primitive, I don't have a problem with that. Primitive compared to what device or operating system?
                                I'm sure there's more sophisticated software available, with advancement comes complexity. I have used surfer on a different system. Found it to be archaic, it tries to achieve too much.
                                Surfer is archaic and OKM soft is advanced?? my God, Surfer,the industry's standard software is way behind OKM! this is the funniest joke that i heard since years,good for you. Just try to show this to a real geophysicist, he will be remain speechless for months!
                                Originally posted by gndradar View Post
                                You don't need all the variation in software, you need to have a device that can locate targets at depth, display it in 3D. Then go dig it up and not be pouring over complex software trying to make heads and tails of the wire diagram in front of you.
                                the okm soft can locate targets at depth and Surfer don't? and also surfer don't has 3D option? again, either you don't know anything about Surfer or clearly you promote the okm products.
                                Originally posted by gndradar View Post
                                If you get your kicks wasting your time looking at pretty software instead of digging up your finds then I wish you well!
                                In field surveys i don't waste my time because i know what i am doing , Surfer implementation is not a problem at all.
                                Originally posted by gndradar View Post
                                Have you ever owned an OKM device? I doubt it as you would realise how good they are.
                                What system do you currently use? Is it LIVE 3D? What depth of penetration in any soil structure do you get?
                                Yes i was using a Future 2005. I own 2 REAL MAGNETOMETERS, and often I borrow from close friends the Profiler EMP-400 and GEM-2 sensors. One of these magnetometers has live 2-D and its easy to update to 3D , but personally I don't use this option.
                                I can locate clearly one ammo box beyond 1.5 meters,several boxes at 2.5meters and massive targets up to 4 meters buried in geological "old" red-orange clay, with "plenty" of remained magnetization.Cars is detectable from 20 meters. We run the best known test site in Greece. Do you really know anything about dipole nature of magnetism?
                                Originally posted by gndradar View Post
                                Feel free to put your money where your mouth is?
                                You should be more polite on your comments.

                                Originally posted by gndradar View Post
                                The point was made that you cant import EPE info into surfer? So in my book it's useless saying how good surfer is? Whilst you try to achieve this I'll be making money from my OKM device.
                                What?? I don't care about EPE. Yes my friend , you will making money selling non working pseudo-geophysical devices to people.
                                A, by the way,you still don't have answer to my question :
                                Do you know what does a VECTOR sensor as a MAGNETOMETER?????????????

                                PS. for sure OKM soft is primitive compared to others but really this isn't the real problem.
                                the big and real problem is the quality off the collected field data. With the okm sensor configuration (rover c, future 2005,I-160) is impossible to get ANY decent result.
                                Last edited by Bill512; 07-17-2011, 11:56 AM. Reason: specific meaning in phrase

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