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    Hi.
    Before few days I made a trial to a OKM EXP-5000. It has fantastic depth. We tryed it at objects of coper, iron and aluminium. All had dimensions roughly 20x20x30 cm and were buried separately in-depth 2 m. The EXP-5000 detected all even when we raised the head 2 meters from the ground, that is to say from 4 m. It head shows that it is a proton magnetometer. The question is... which technology it uses and it detects the non ferrous objects as coper and aluminium in so much big depth?
    Any idea?????

    Regards

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    The exp5000 has a lot of different configurations and probes, not only the magnetometer function which only gets ferromagnetic materials. The discrimination is done as a metal detector function but with a very special circuit configuration in VLF for higher depth. Their algorithms for imaging are very good and depending of the package chosen, there are extra options as the DDV and thermoscan that allow infrared images in 3D. I assume the detection of the copper and aluminum targets were not made in magnetometer mode only.

    Some concepts are also used in their Bionic01 that 'senses' gold targets at extremely high ranges.
    As one of my team members decided to get a Bionic due to the very good performance it had in a recent expedition that included his friend, he then asked me to contact OKM for him to get technical details on the concept which I did. I had email conversations with one of their engineers about it and their explorer series was also subject of this conversation.

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    • #3
      Hi Hung.
      I don't know who method my friend used to locate the objects. I believe that it was not at magnetometer mode because he scanned consecutively the 3 objects. After it he set it to live scan and we saw again the objects at 2m depth. It worked not as magnetometer, it is not a GPR, what it is and has this fantastic depth?????
      I had very bad icon for the OKM because a friend has a Bionic alfa and it is Scrap!!!!. But this detector is fantastic.

      Regards

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      • #4
        Ask my friend how works his OKM - i160. What did find through all year at the use his "revolutionary accoustic magnetometer"? Only don't approach to near, because he is very nervous
        Mrand

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Geo View Post
          Hi Hung.
          I don't know who method my friend used to locate the objects. I believe that it was not at magnetometer mode because he scanned consecutively the 3 objects. After it he set it to live scan and we saw again the objects at 2m depth. It worked not as magnetometer, it is not a GPR, what it is and has this fantastic depth?????
          I had very bad icon for the OKM because a friend has a Bionic alfa and it is Scrap!!!!. But this detector is fantastic.

          Regards
          Hello Geo.

          You see? You have a very different opinion than some people. Several months ago, some guy posted over TNET how he thought the explorers were crap as he found so many false signals with it. Then Frank chimed in to know what was going on as probably the guy was not using it right or the soil had lots of mineralization.

          Don't know about bionic alpha, but I do have several detailed reports about the BIonic 01 and they are positive.
          People even fight in ordinary MD review sites.

          So it all depends on many factors. But that classic 'motto' remains: If it works for someone, then it's great. If not, then it's crap.


          I will never agree with this. But it's my opinion.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Mrand View Post
            Ask my friend how works his OKM - i160. What did find through all year at the use his "revolutionary accoustic magnetometer"? Only don't approach to near, because he is very nervous
            Mrand
            Hi Mrand.
            I don't know the OKM-i160 but the EXP5000 that i tryed was fantastic. Very big depth at ferrous and non-ferrous objects at a very heavy terrain. Maybe to has problems with stones or..... (i don't know), but for me is OK. But the basic query is remaining. How it works, with who technology!!!!!!!

            Regards

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Geo View Post
              Hi.
              Before few days I made a trial to a OKM EXP-5000. It has fantastic depth. We tryed it at objects of coper, iron and aluminium. All had dimensions roughly 20x20x30 cm and were buried separately in-depth 2 m. The EXP-5000 detected all even when we raised the head 2 meters from the ground, that is to say from 4 m. It head shows that it is a proton magnetometer. The question is... which technology it uses and it detects the non ferrous objects as coper and aluminium in so much big depth?
              Any idea?????

              Regards
              I could say something stupid, but I'm taking the risk. I know of the magnetic surveys done for the mining industries (surveys done from the air, on large areas), they show the magnetic anomalies due to mineral deposits, which aren't usually ferrous in nature. For example surveys done for copper and gold mining. Doesn't it mean that the non-ferrous deposits create an anomaly in the magnetic field?

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              • #8
                Me and my friend, we found We found less than half a ton so far expore 5000 for sale half the new price !!! have you concerned?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by soverey View Post
                  I could say something stupid, but I'm taking the risk. I know of the magnetic surveys done for the mining industries (surveys done from the air, on large areas), they show the magnetic anomalies due to mineral deposits, which aren't usually ferrous in nature. For example surveys done for copper and gold mining. Doesn't it mean that the non-ferrous deposits create an anomaly in the magnetic field?
                  I completely agree with you , I think you're right!

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                  • #10
                    Hi.
                    Before some months we went for treasure hunting at a mountain with EXP5000, we looked for 120Kg gold. The only that we found was stones.
                    So now the fantastic machine now is a scrap

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Geo View Post
                      Hi.
                      Before some months we went for treasure hunting at a mountain with EXP5000, we looked for 120Kg gold. The only that we found was stones.
                      So now the fantastic machine now is a scrap
                      I'm sorry it didn't worked, it seems that it can't be used in all real life situations. My interest is purely technological. As far as they say is a combination of magnetometer and some kind of pulse generator. Is it possible that for non ferrous metal, they use a pulse discharge in order to magnetize them and later to read it with the mag? I know that is possible to magnetize non ferrous objects with eddy currents, this is how is used in some industrial metal separators.

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