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    in different pi designs some coils are connected to v+ like in the hammerhead and to v- in the surfmaster.whats the consensus on which is best ?

  • #2
    LOL! What's best ? PNP or NPN transistors both do the job.

    Just depends on how you do the job!

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    • #3
      if the coil is connected to ground and the sheild is connected to ground might the capacitance be less ?

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      • #4
        Originally posted by homefire View Post
        LOL! What's best ? PNP or NPN transistors both do the job.

        Just depends on how you do the job!
        hey homefire .quit with the LOL .it's a valid question

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        • #5
          Sorry! I don't see that it would make any difference. Neg or Pos ground it's all the same.

          How would it effect the C ?


          Now that's funny!


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          • #6
            any shield is gonna add some capacitance .yes ? no ?

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            • #7
              The shield just diverts the EMI and Ground Cap away from the signal on the coil.

              Pos or Neg it keeps the receive signal a bit cleaner.

              The shield it's self adds a bit of Cap to the coil but the Benefits out weigh the bad.

              Does that make sense?

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              • #8
                have a read homefire http://www.irf.com/technical-info/appnotes/an-940.pdf

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                • #9
                  I see there talking about Grounded Load, but can't find anything about Capacitance problems.

                  ????

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by homefire View Post
                    I see there talking about Grounded Load, but can't find anything about Capacitance problems.

                    ????
                    you'll agree thou we are talking about 2 different animals .one will be different better of worse than the other for our needs.unfortunately these pdf's are not targeted at pi metal detectors.

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                    • #11
                      I'm no longer sure what your trying to ask.

                      You asked what would be best and there is no difference. Neg or Pos Ground.

                      The use of P channel Fet ?

                      There are a number of ways to Fire the coil.

                      Transitors work Jim Dandy on some detectors.

                      A little help here.

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                      • #12
                        like i asked at the start

                        in different pi designs some coils are connected to v+ like in the hammerhead and to v- in the surfmaster.whats the consensus on which is best ?
                        i'm here to learn thats all.

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                        • #13
                          They only thing I can tell you is that would depend on what parts used and how you have it set up?

                          I really don't think there is a best in regards to Pos or Neg.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by taliesin View Post
                            if the coil is connected to ground and the sheild is connected to ground might the capacitance be less ?
                            Less than what? Where do you find any PI@ where the coil and shield are not connected to ground?

                            Your original question was not whether to connect the coil to ground, but whether to connect the coil to B+ or B-. (Isn't that what you really meant?)

                            In the vast majority of cases that answer simply rests on whether using N or P devices because that will determine whether B+ or B- is connected to ground.

                            @ There are some but they are not a majority.

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                            • #15
                              hammerhead 1

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