IGSL

[der_fisherman]

I'm partly wrong about the text, even the IGSL is written the wrong way round to be eventually correct on the etched PCB, sorry.

Andy

[ivconic]

My 2 cents.
Because Ivconic is back on the Forum.
10x10 cm.
Not checked.

Regards Nakky!

[ivconic]

I just also noticed that it appears that you didn't correct the various "Yellow" solder pads that should be changed to the lower (green) level either, you probably didn't notice them, but they are on the same level as the wire links if I remember correctly....

Perhaps Ivconic has some special reason to have them where they are?

regards

Andy

Sort of "reminders" in process of routing the rest of pcb. Forgot to remove them. Besides, yellow layer is not supposed to be printed when etching file is in preparation. So those are not bothering anyway.
You should download Sprint Layout and get a bit familiar with it, it is splendid little software for our hobby.

P.S.
Ah! Now i see why it is confusing! Nakky used blue layer for wirejumpers ! And i am using by (my own) default only yellow and rarely red layer for not printable elements on pcb! Because i use wire jumpers and not print them on top layer. Although, Nakky's way might turn smarter, less soldering job later... if vias are metalized. But in my case, i don't have conditions for metalization.. so i am enforced to plan and use wire jumpers.

[ivconic]

Hi Nakky,

firstly it looks very, very good. Thanks.

May I ask you a couple of questions?

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3) Which version of the two current ones is this? ...
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Andy

Is it not obvious?!
It is so obvious - almost impossible to mix them and not see which one it is.
Sure it is version for Musketeer coils, it is so obvious even by skim look on oscillator stage....
Cheers!

[ivconic]

About layers in SL

C1 (BLUE) Board side 1 - Copper layout
S1 (RED) Board side 1 - Silk screen
C2 (GREEN) Board side 2 - Copper layout
S2 (YELLOW) Board side 2 - Silk screen
O Outline of the board
I1 Inner layer 1
I2 Inner layer 2
...

But this is not that obligatory. Each one of us can make own "defaults".
Matter of habit. Because we are amateurs, we are not preparing industrial documentation for large series production... so it's really not important for our level of use.

But if majority here insist on closely standards to be respected - than i will agree and will adapt my future works to obey those standards. No problem at all.

[silverdog]

It would be good if everyone used these, if only for me

To get boards made from Sprint Layout, I have to put everthing on the correct layers and solve all DRC checks before I can produce the gerber files for manufacture

Not a big problem but would save some time

Boards are 2 layer with thru hole plating so vias are ok


IGSL version ?
Watch this space tomorrow

[der_fisherman]

As long as the correct pad is in place under the yellow (I could not check because it was a .gif format, not an original Sprint-Layout format), that is really fine....I was worried that they were the right pads, but on the wrong layer and SilverDog would make a bad batch of boards, missing pads.

The benefits of using a CAD software that allows first a schematic to be made (Eagle & KICAD for example) and then a PCB from the schematic, is in the end, when you want to make a change, once the schematic is done, the board gets made mostly, if not completely, automatically reproduced with the new changes.

Also, it can check both DRC and ERC automatically......but I will go with you and the majority on that one, its not my decision.

The same with the revision level to be added to the PCB. I don't see that even an amateur PCB should not have that, its so simple to add and maintain. Minutes if not seconds of work.

Have you thought about my hope for a single PCB for both coil types? Firstly to help SiverDog and reduce his investment.....assuming that there are different components in different places, but if its only an extra voltage regulator, surely it will work for both versions (once the extra pads have been added), it sounds like a good thing to me. Even if it is a slightly different layout, I still think its worth doing....Someone who does not want 2 regulators could patch in a wire link to supply the voltage where Reg #2 should normally sit.....

Nakky did a really great job in getting the board down to 10 x 10 cm.....but even now, it has some small unused areas, so it could get smaller if needed with the right software of course....and a bit of work, so maybe the missing components for both designs can be added....let us know what you think, am I asking for too much?

Regards

Andy

[nakky]

I'm partly wrong about the text, even the IGSL is written the wrong way round to be eventually correct on the etched PCB, sorry.

Andy

Hi Andy.
Sorry for my English,I can't write long stories,so I keep it short.
move stuff around till it fitted./ Yes I do

which PCB they are using.... / Sprint Layout
Which version / IGSL rev 2.1
spare Silverdog for the price / and for us
I prefer and have Eagle /Try Spint Layout ,simple and alow price.
be eventually correct on the etched PCB / you are right.
The blue bridge lines are for testing circuit conecting points, look at the picture.
I dont no to send a zipfile to the forum.
Ivconic can I send it to you.

Grt Nakky

[der_fisherman]

Hi Andy.
Sorry for my English,I can't write long stories,so I keep it short.
move stuff around till it fitted./ Yes I do

which PCB they are using.... / Sprint Layout
Which version / IGSL rev 2.1
spare Silverdog for the price / and for us
I prefer and have Eagle /Try Spint Layout ,simple and alow price.
be eventually correct on the etched PCB / you are right.
The blue bridge lines are for testing circuit conecting points, look at the picture.
I dont no to send a zipfile to the forum.
Ivconic can I send it to you.

Grt Nakky

Thanks Nakky for your reply.
You may have understood me wrongly, I had that program years ago, it is OK for an occasional one-off PCB, but there is no schematic editor, so the upkeep of a schematic and a PCB are made into two seperate jobs, whereas with KICAD and Eagle, its only really one job...
Also these versions will also make a parts list with a few mouse clicks, or a .pdf copy and and and......
If you have never used Eagle (had it over 25 years since 2.0 under DOS) or KICAD(Free, but I have not done much with it myself) or similar, you may not believe me.......but it is far less likely to have errors between the schematic and the PCB......
Congratulation for getting to 10 x 10 cm, that was really good.
Once the updated schematics are available, I intend keying it into Eagle......it may take a week or three.....
regards
Andy

[silverdog]

IGSL boards

Poll stands at 56-46 % in favour of Musketeer, but very close

So there is only one answer.......................

Get BOTH boards ... just don't tell Mrs Silverdog


To make this possible the boards are being made as a pair on a single board with a v-groove snap off join between the 2 designs

Price will be £12 for the pair, so @ £6 per board it works out ok.

I expect to dispatch on 15th August when I return from a break with the family

Silverdog

[der_fisherman]

I think that is a great idea and very cheap, that's an offer nobody can refuse......maybe we will all end up making two MDs!!

regards

Andy

[SVEN1]

Great deal, I'll take 3 of each.

[der_fisherman]

Funny!!!

LOL!!

[nakky]

I have Check it with Ivconics layout IGSL rev 2.1

Grt Nakky

[der_fisherman]

I have Check it with Ivconics layout IGSL rev 2.1

Grt Nakky

Hi Nakky,

nice PCB, thanks.

I forget, is yours the one for the self made coils, or for the coils that need to be purchased? If that, any recommendations?

Thanks in advance.

regards

Andy