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@ ivconic
Concerning the preset programs you're absolutly right - those are not the maximum at all.
Even with analog machines someone should practise at least 30 hours to learn the behaviour of the detector.
OK, maybe the XP Deus will find large enough meteorites with enough iron or nickel
but you can test it: if you bury a piece of brickstone in lowmineralic ground or earth will you find it? Guess no.
@ WM6
By pure chance yesterday I found a second nugget-size object. It's not that unusual, because I'm looking
for very small coins at that site and for those someone also has to listen very closly and move the coil
directly over the ground.
This micronail looks big on the foto but it isn't. And the weight is far below 1 gram, perhaps 0.1 gram.
It was found 5cm below the surface at a region with massive electrosmog. No chance if you don't hit
the spot within 3cm tolerance exactly with the 28cm coil. But without electrosmog the Blisstool would
have detected it at 7-8cm.
Another nail I found 3 days ago under the same "extremly noisy" conditions. This nail is 1.3 cm.
It was detected ca. 10cm below - at exactly the depth where you can see it on the grass bale.
Only put a thin piece of bark below the nail to show it better. Better conditions depth: ca. 13cm
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Blisstool battery life Info:
These are 3 x 2200mA LiPo's with totally 11.1 volts.
Because there are so many different devices which are using accu-power
and all the additonal single accucells I have since a half year I'm writing a list
so I don't forget to recharge this stuff to save the batteries from deep-depleting.
The internal Blisstool accus were recharged 1,5 months ago and now guess for
how many hours of usage those 2.5 year old accus have worked since then:
55 hours!
I'm interested if others got the same good accu-usage-time results.
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Originally posted by Funfinder View PostBlisstool battery life Info:
55 hours!
But if we know that old Fisher PI (!) Impulse batteries last twice as much, then we can conclude, that all those modern design are very poor designed from economical energy consumption point of view.
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> Good results, I like such MD capabilities. For me one of most important MD characteristic.
The results are even better:
Today I let switched on the Blisstool with those already 55h active accus and I got another 10h plus.
At the moment each battery is at ca. 3.3 volts (instead of 3.7) so I guess another 5-10 hours would be possible.
So in total the internal 2200mA Blisstool LiPo pack will last for 70-75h of working time even 2-3 years after
buying (if volume is @ silent to medium position). A new one may last even for 90 hours!
I saw in a video at the main french XP Déus page that the coil of this MD is chargable even by
a single 1.5 AA alkaline cell but theres of course a difference concerning recharging comfort if
someone needs to charge after every day (10h) or after two days á 5hs of hunting or if the
detectors battery power will last for 10 days á 7-9 hours!
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"...I saw in a video at the main french XP Déus page that the coil of this MD is chargable even by
a single 1.5 AA alkaline cell but theres of course a difference concerning recharging comfort if
someone needs to charge after every day (10h) or after two days á 5hs of hunting or if the
detectors battery power will last for 10 days á 7-9 hours!..."
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2 weeks ago I had the first time the opportunity to test the accu-mod outside.
After 3 years of my usage of the Blisstool LTC64 the internal accus still are lasting around 70h of search.
The accumod worked great - I fixed the pack simple with tape inbetween the coil-cable and stem.
btw. I found out what electro-smog source is the most deadly for this and many others detectors:
The overland-power-providing lines for trains in Middle Europe!
Not the small / usual one that goes directly over the train-lines, but the main source supply kV lines!
It runs at 110 kiloVolt and has an extremly high potential to create electrosmog for metal-detectors.
Much stronger than the usual 380kV lines of the main electricity providers!
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bahnstrom
this is german but you can look at the Europe map there.
So far only the Jeohunter remains completly silent and high sensitive directly under such lines.
Garrett detectors are completly unusable there (excluded the Pro-Pointer), also the Fisher 1266-X
and the Blisstools sensitivity must be reduced to 0-1 or the fanatic beeps blow the speaker away.
Seems those 110 kV lines use a special AC frequency (16⅓ Hz to 17,0 Hz, which is ⅓ of 50 Hz) or rough wave-form that creates so extremly much noise -
perhaps especially if some 50 Hz lines are additionaly nearby. The engineers of metal-detectors should be aware of this problem and find a solution.
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@WM6 & Koala
Yes, the both links are really cool - another proof how deep the Bliss goes and it wasn't even set to
"skilled ears critical noise adjustment".
In this highsensitive mode only an around 1/3 longer "beep" or "crack" decides if its a target at all (no matter what) or if its noise
and I wouldn't have had the slightest chance to find many rare things at highly polluted e-smog sites without this method.
This target seperation test also is impressive but it should be made with buried objects, too.
The deeper the finds and the closer together, the stronger the signal merges.
AND:
there exists another target seperation - filter out large deep iron, steel and other objects from crap and rusty nails close to the surface.
The Blisstool is able to do this because of the "disc depth poti" and contrary a much longer and larger "sphere"-signal at larger finds, too.
A 50cm deep cannonball as example creates a soft starting and then loud and clear detection field over a 25x25cm area and up to 15cm high.
So its important that the detector shows larger targets also with a longer signal and not with "always the same short re-created beeps".
And one big problem most of other detectors have is that the 0 Ground Balance Value is totally fixed.
The XP Deus won't detect any high mineralized stones - but this is not the whole thing - sometimes its absolutly important
to shift the GEB 30% below rusty nails so the contrast factor for very small iron parts will be much higher than at the usual "GEB disk out level".
The Blisstool as example set manually to Ground Balance 7 detects even the smallest (3mm small!) rusty shoe-nail around 8cm away!
Of course this is also important to find little gold corns if the ground is not too highly mineralized there.
If those most of the time fixed and unchangable GEB level is already set to "small rusty things" the disc starts already powerful there
which also is a problem vor very deep faint "low metal" objects in mineralized soil because the GEB blurres everything straight away.
A really profi detector should have even somethin like a magnificent glass function for a manually adjustable GEB-area.
That way someone could spread the band if he looks for certain stuff like meteorites, small gold or the "high metals" like silver and alloys.
below a little selection of micro stuff - each square is 5mm - I found with the Blisstool.
Its no problem to detect such things with a usual detector that uses a 4-6'' (10-15cm) coil and if those are close to the surface,
but its tough to catch them with a 12'' coil and at a highly infested e-smog area and up to 7cm deep.Attached Files
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