QED

[PATCHES JUNIOR]

should read
That is precisely what has and is being done by a number of good people who are not associated with any detector company!!
dougAEGPF

But when should we get the results from their testing? 2 weeks? 2 months? 2 years ? I hope they could test a machine in a few days. I know most folks could give a report after a week of using it. I know you gave one to a guy in the states to test a while back, How did the testing go?

[Carl-NC]

I am sorry, but divulging that will make more corporate enemies, further inflame the detractors and potentially compromise a "bigger bully's" expectations.

How many corporate enemies do you have, and how would you know?

The Bully Mythology seems to be a common thread in the history of Ultimate Detectors. Seems that more time & effort is spent on propagating the mythology than is spent on developing a competitive detector. Suggestion #7, Respect the Competition, is a difficult one to swallow, especially when you are totally invested in the Bully Mythology.

If, today, you suddenly and completely ceased all efforts to berate Minelab and the people who use them, how would that hurt the development efforts of the QED?

[Carl-NC]

please note, that Carls opinion is biased due to his employment/business connection to White's.

A-yup, I'll readily admit that. But we're all biased, based on personal experiences and perceptions of reality. I think my perception of reality in the realm of metal detector design and manufacturing is a bit sharpened since joining a detector company.

Some years ago, I also had the illusion of developing and building my own metal detectors. Not a gold detector per the QED, but a specialty detector that I could hand-build in low volumes and sell at high prices (gasp!), maybe even enough to pay the rent. In hindsight, it would have been a grueling ordeal as a solo effort. Utterly unwise.

In any case, entertaining thoughts that PUDs are a threat to any metal detector company is certainly gratifying, but not very realistic. The Nexus and Blisstool are examples, they've not even made a blip in anyone's sales. And PUDs do help push technology forward, often in directions that the major companies didn't choose and should have. Ergo, I fully support these efforts, sometimes overtly via these forums, and sometimes behind the scenes.

- Carl

[PATCHES JUNIOR]

How many corporate enemies do you have, and how would you know?

The Bully Mythology seems to be a common thread in the history of Ultimate Detectors. Seems that more time & effort is spent on propagating the mythology than is spent on developing a competitive detector. Suggestion #7, Respect the Competition, is a difficult one to swallow, especially when you are totally invested in the Bully Mythology.

If, today, you suddenly and completely ceased all efforts to berate Minelab and the people who use them, how would that hurt the development efforts of the QED?

I say it would be good for a person not to speak ill of a company they are trying to compete with. If Bugwhiskers and Doug kept their yapper shut and not put down folks who wondered why the QED was missing the release dates, and stopped trying to put down Minelab they would not be in the boat they are in now.

What do you think Doug? A simple question for you that I hope you have a answer for.

[WM6]

The QED schematic. If any circuit elements are copyright or patented, please let me know and I will change it.

Brilliant schematic BW. Especially if we know that there is part time developer behind.

Evidently you have nothing stolen to hide by white paint like some other do.

[PATCHES JUNIOR]

Evidently you have nothing stolen to hide by white paint like some other do.

Looks like you have been hanging around Doug too long!!

[WM6]

Looks like you have been hanging around Doug too long!!

I am talking about schematic, not about Doug. Pure Beauty.
And evidently nothing as re-patented prior arts of white paints.

[bugwhiskers]

How many corporate enemies do you have, and how would you know?

The Bully Mythology seems to be a common thread in the history of Ultimate Detectors. Seems that more time & effort is spent on propagating the mythology than is spent on developing a competitive detector. Suggestion #7, Respect the Competition, is a difficult one to swallow, especially when you are totally invested in the Bully Mythology.

If, today, you suddenly and completely ceased all efforts to berate Minelab and the people who use them, how would that hurt the development efforts of the QED?

You have set rules for this thread that prevent me from answering fully.
I do not berate other "detector" users, many of my friends have XX detectors.
My criticisms and competitive product creation efforts are in the best interest of consumers.
Can you name ANY company that is beyond criticism?

[PATCHES JUNIOR]

You have set rules for this thread that prevent me from answering fully.
I do not berate other "detector" users, many of my friends have XX detectors.
My criticisms and competitive product creation efforts are in the best interest of consumers.
Can you name ANY company that is beyond criticism?

I like this part Bugwhiskers

"I do not berate other "detector" users."

Why would anyone think that you would talk bad about Minelab or its users. Thats a good one for sure!

[dougAEGPF]

I am talking about schematic, not about Doug. Pure Beauty.
And evidently nothing as re-patented prior arts of white paints.

Pure beauty indeed! The circuit is also beautifully quiet and has NO "harmonic" problems!!
dougAEGPF

[sawmill]

Doug that will probably change,once you hook it up to a battery!

[dougAEGPF]

Doug that will probably change,once you hook it up to a battery!

Sorry you are wrong yet again!
QED's have been and continue to be field tested in real goldfields as we speak by real prospectors(including one who has been detecting with great gold success for about 30 years!) and who have no detector company affiliations!
dougAEGPF

[sawmill]

Doug that story is really getting old ,according to your forum,
this so called testing has been going on for over two years. Not
one credible piece of proof has been shown yet. If any qed had
found gold,you would have plastered photos on every gold forum
on the internet.

[Carl-NC]

You have set rules for this thread that prevent me from answering fully.

All I ask is for is civility... is that really too much?

[dougAEGPF]

Doug that story is really getting old ,according to your forum,
this so called testing has been going on for over two years. Not
one credible piece of proof has been shown yet. If any qed had
found gold,you would have plastered photos on every gold forum
on the internet.

I have found gold with the QED as have others! There is even a Utube video of a very early Rev QED finding gold!The QED does find virgin gold nuggets in real goldfields!
Again what you say has no basis in fact!
dougAEGPF