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    ChatGPT looks to be an interesting tool for a lot of applications, including research, design, and coding. My very first question was:

    "What is a good book that explains metal detector design?"

    Chat replies:
    There isn't a specific book that solely focuses on metal detector design, however, there are some books that provide a good introduction to the basics of metal detection and the principles behind how metal detectors work.
    Here are a few books that you might find helpful:
    1. "The Modern Pulse Induction Metal Detector" by Charles L. Garrett - This book provides a comprehensive introduction to the basics of metal detection and the science behind pulse induction metal detectors.
    2. "Metal Detecting: A Beginner's Guide to Mastering the Greatest Hobby In the World" by Samuel Diaz - This book is a comprehensive guide for beginners to metal detecting, including a section on the principles of metal detector design and operation.
    3. "The Official Treasure Hunters Field Guide" by Charles L. Garrett and Roy Lagal - This book provides an overview of metal detecting, including a section on how metal detectors work and the different types of detectors available.
    These books should provide you with a good understanding of the basics of metal detector design and help you understand how metal detectors work.
    Hmmm... I know of one book it missed, so my follow-up was:

    "What about "Inside the Metal Detector" by George Overton and Carl Moreland?"

    ​Chat replies:
    Yes, "Inside the Metal Detector" by George Overton and Carl Moreland is another great book that provides an in-depth look at the principles of metal detector design and operation. This book covers the history of metal detection, the basic physics of metal detection, and the different types of metal detectors and their uses. It also includes technical details on how metal detectors work and how to build and modify metal detectors. If you're interested in learning more about the technical aspects of metal detector design, this book is a great resource.
    Interestingly, Chat's reply does not appear to be a copy-paste of any summary information on the book I'm aware of. That is, it seems to be a uniquely stated response as if from someone who read the book. Maybe it got pulled from an Amazon review, I haven't read all of them.

    It would be interesting if someone else posed the exact same original question to Chat and see if it learned anything and ITMD is now included.

  • #2
    Carl-NC did you see my message ?

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      Apparently not.

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    This AI doesn't seem to have learned anything from your conversation, Carl.

    What is a good book that explains metal detector design?

    Unfortunately, there aren't many books specifically focused on metal detector design. However, here are a few books that touch on the subject and might be helpful:
    1. "Practical Guide to Metal Detector Comparison" by Andy Sabisch - This book provides a comprehensive overview of metal detector technology and design, including different types of detectors and their components.
    2. "The Modern Technology of Radiation Detectors" edited by Richard L. Olsen - This book provides a broad overview of radiation detector technology and design, including metal detectors. It covers the principles of operation and design considerations for different types of detectors.
    3. "Handbook of Metal Detectors" by Albert G. Link and Robert R. Skolnick - This book provides an overview of metal detector design and applications, including historical perspectives and modern developments.
    Additionally, online forums and websites dedicated to metal detecting can be a great resource for learning about detector design and technology.
    It can't even correctly identify an IC by its part number!

    what do you know about chip 74HCT9046?

    The 74HCT9046 is a CMOS integrated circuit that is part of the 74HCT family of digital ICs. It is a high-speed, low-power 8-bit binary counter that is designed to be used in a variety of digital applications, including data transmission and reception, frequency division, and frequency counting.

    The 74HCT9046 is capable of counting up or down, and it has several built-in control inputs that allow for flexible operation. It also features a reset input that can be used to reset the counter to zero. The chip operates on a single power supply and has low power consumption, making it suitable for battery-powered or portable applications.

    In terms of specifications, the 74HCT9046 typically operates with a voltage range of 2-6V, with a maximum clock frequency of 20 MHz. It has a high-speed propagation delay time of less than 20 ns and a low power-down current of less than 1 µA. The chip is available in a variety of packages, including DIP, SOIC, and TSSOP.

    Wrong, it's a PLL chip

    I apologize for the mistake in my previous response. You are correct, the 74HCT9046 is actually a phase-locked loop (PLL) integrated circuit.


    A PLL is a type of control system that is commonly used to generate a stable and accurate clock signal for a digital system. The 74HCT9046 is a specific type of PLL that uses a digital approach to lock the phase of its output signal to the phase of an input reference signal.
    When you get to know her a little she's a windbag.

    Differences between the CD4046 and the 74HCT9046

    The CD4046 and the 74HCT9046 are both integrated circuits used for Phase-Locked Loop (PLL) frequency synthesizer applications. However, there are some differences between the two chips.
    1. Technology: The CD4046 is a bipolar integrated circuit, while the 74HCT9046 is a complementary metal-oxide-semiconductor (CMOS) integrated circuit.
    2. bla... bla... bla...

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    • #4
      Chat reminds me of some engineers I've known... incapable of saying "I don't know."

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      • #5
        Carl,

        I posed the same question to ChatGPT just now.

        "What is a good book that explains metal detector design?"

        Response was ...




        "Inside the Metal Detector" by George Overton is a highly regarded book that provides a comprehensive overview of metal detector technology, design principles, and practical tips for building your own metal detector. Another recommended book is "The Art of Metal Detecting" by T.S. Libby, which covers various types of metal detectors and their applications, as well as tips for successful metal detecting.



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        • #6
          Good to see the learning algorithm is working.

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          • #7
            I wonder if someone can just go around trashing its responses by saying things like “Oh my blablabla book is better etc.”. I suspect I already saw a post that seems to come from it on a forum. It is going to be hard to tell truth from fiction and we may be deluged by autoposting bots that could kill forums.

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            • #8
              I also wonder how hard it is to feed it misinformation and have it wind up a complete gullibilly.

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              • #9
                I read an article on 'AI' systems that after training would have lots of Wrong information due to the training material (think it was web based).

                Reminds me of SiFi stories where the AI has totally wrong concepts. Some are funny others are deadly.

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                • #10
                  I'm thinking about what questions I would ask the AI ​​and there are basically 2:
                  - how to increase the detection range of a PI metal detector?
                  - How to detect small gold nuggets?​

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                  • #11
                    i had a go at it basically paste your code in and ask gpt to make it better or give you ideas to make the code faster, it did get a few things wrong like Arduino timer addresses so i told it to look them up and then it corrected its self and said it will remember in future but yes its fun and gives you new ideas on how to work stuff out

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                    • #12
                      Carl, according to chatgpt, you're dead.



                      Who is carl Moreland


                      Carl Moreland (1961-201 was an American metal detecting expert and a well-known figure in the metal detecting community. He was also a historian, artifact collector, and author who contributed significantly to the field of metal detecting and the study of historical artifacts.

                      Moreland was known for his extensive knowledge of metal detecting technologies, techniques, and history. He co-authored several books on metal detecting, including "The Metal Detecting Bible: Helpful Tips, Expert Tricks, and Insider Secrets for Finding Hidden Treasures" and "Metal Detecting: A Beginner's Guide: to Mastering the Greatest Hobby In the World."

                      Moreland was also a prominent advocate for responsible metal detecting, emphasizing the importance of obtaining proper permission and respecting archaeological sites and historical artifacts. He passed away in 2018, leaving behind a legacy of knowledge and enthusiasm for metal detecting.​

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                      • #13
                        And not a word about "inside the metal detector" book.

                        This is obviously deliberate. It cannot be that it should be capable of composing poetry but can't remember where it pissed yesterday.

                        This is no trivial error on its part. Something is definitely wrong. Where did it learn that you were deceased? Which dataset? How can it emphatically state such when there is no evidence to support this claim? Especially when you logged on recently to interact with it.

                        r.i.p Carl. We miss you!

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                        • #14
                          My theory for accounting for these basic errors is that it has and continues to be trained with subjective bias which manifests itself in an ever growing series of unfortunate and basic factual errors. In short, it has been trained to lie.

                          Unless there is some other Carl Moreland....

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                          • #15
                            I was wondering why everyone was ignoring me, like Bruce Willis in Sixth Sense. There are several other Carl Morelands, including a guy who has written books on antique maps. I think he's still kicking. My concern with AI tools like ChatGPT is that they "learn" by assimilating new information, including any misinformation they might run across or is intentionally fed to them. In other words, they are probably very gullible. I have no idea how ChatGPT came up with that response.

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