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  • Universal coil tester

    Hope this is of help to some of you when checking with a TGS manufacture coil 8" round its very accurate, also with the whites, minelab,c-scope, and fisher types I have here.
    Ideal for help manufacturing your own coils of any specifacations using along side inductance meter, frequency counter and a scope.
    Typical output sinewave 25v p-p as shown on scope display.
    switches and sockets fitted on the assembly is so a metal detector coil can be fitted directly into it with additional adaptors theres no reason why it couldnt cover all manufactures without using probs.
    Next to the 5 way socket in the front is a two way double pole flip type switch that switches between TX and RX.
    Third is the BNC type socket which is also connected to the switch which is for connecting CX to which ever coil that has been selected, very handy I use a BNC to to probe leads that have the locks on for grabing components.
    On the back end firstly is the on/off switch then another BNC socket wired directly to the RX coil via the 5 way socket, its main purpose is for adjusting nulling, whilst monitoring both TX and RX on scope A+B channels.
    Thirdly is another BNC socket which is signal out from the back end of the oscillator circuit to feed scope/frequency counter and displays either TX or RX.
    Great bit of kit just wish I had built it ages ago, most of the bits came out of my junk box, the BNC sockets etc were robed from old security monitors.
    I will post the circuit later, for some reason wont let me up load them they were done on express pcb.

    Parts list:
    R1= 56K, R2-4= 470 OHMS, R3= 47K, C1-5=47000PF, C6=100,000PF, C2-3=47PF, C4= 100MFD, TR1= 2N2907, FT1-2= BF245
    Attached Files

  • #2
    see if this works
    All the best
    Dave
    Attached Files

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    • #3
      Update

      Couldnt sleep so went to the workshop set up a pair of home made TGSl coils which were 5.97-6.3mh slaped on a 1.5nf on the TX adjust overlap to 400mv p-p as per manufacture coil and bingo works well with sense and disc and quite as a mouse, so already spot glued all in the space of 1 hour.
      Wether its luck or not remains to be seen but its looking good.

      All the best

      Dave

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      • #4
        Originally posted by satdaveuk View Post
        Couldnt sleep so went to the workshop set up a pair of home made TGSl coils which were 5.97-6.3mh slaped on a 15nf on the TX adjust overlap to 400mv p-p as per manufacture coil and bingo works well with sense and disc and quite as a mouse, so already spot glued all in the space of 1 hour.
        Wether its luck or not remains to be seen but its looking good.

        All the best

        Dave
        wrong c value corrected now

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        • #5
          which program do I need to open the schematic? Thanks...

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          • #6
            Originally posted by joop View Post
            which program do I need to open the schematic? Thanks...
            Its the one most use on here PCB EXPRESS, its free, tryed to covert them but didnt have the know how.

            Also when stated 1.5nf on doing null setting should have been 15nf but sure most here would have twigged it been such clever clogs

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            • #7
              Thanks Dave

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              • #8
                Could someone please convert the .rar file?

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by homefire View Post
                  Could someone please convert the .rar file?
                  Hi
                  Just download winzip or one of those there all free and will open them, but if you dont want to download express pcb which i recomend you do for fucture projects then im sure someone here will convert it for you, I would but I dont know how

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                  • #10
                    hope this helps
                    Attached Files

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                    • #11
                      Thanks for that Joop sure it will be of great help to many.
                      Just dawned on me and forgot to mention, got prompted because someone here needs one to use alot higher frequencys than the typical metal detector coil.

                      If anyone wants to expand the frequency of this oscillator into the GHZ range its simple
                      Just change the 2n2907 to a BR99 there old transistor but still available for £7 but otherwise they were commonly used in the old UHF varicap tuner assemblys Thorn philips are just two that come to mind.
                      The BR99 has a fourth pin which is a screen and if you notice Ive left provision for that on the PCB design you just need to drill the hole, you cant miss it goes stright to deck.

                      The only thing I strongly sugest is although the PCB that I designed has ground zones make sure its in close fitting screened inclosure and solder the various groundzones of the PCB to it.

                      Its just come to me now the perfect housing would be the very same tuner you took the BR99 out of , blumin perfect.
                      So it really could be a junck box project that has so many advantages.

                      Anyway anybody whos built one let me know how you get on.

                      Regards

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                      • #12
                        Here tis
                        just shift and print screen and paste in any picture program

                        Parts list:
                        R1= 56K, R2-4= 470 OHMS, R3= 47K, C1-5=47000PF, C6=100,000PF, C2-3=47PF, C4= 100MFD, TR1= 2N2907, FT1-2= BF245
                        Attached Files

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                        • #13
                          Hi Dave,

                          Sorry if i'm being a bit thick, but whats it for exactly?

                          Regards Jim.

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                          • #14
                            A Question

                            Hi .
                            I am wondering if it is possible to set up coils in this manner.
                            Null the coils ( with initial LC to approximate value ).
                            Then with the coils overlapped ,fine tune C on Rx coil using universal oscillator to achieve the magic 1.11 TX - Rx freqency ratio . Or does on have to separate the coils to measure the freqency ? . I also have oscillator in my project named coilset which is in the IGSL post. Basically it is TSGL front end but the files are in diptrace format very naughty of me,
                            it is a great freeware program I have tried a few programs and have the 500 pin lite version which is you can get on request form diptrace.
                            Thanks for sharing your project and info.
                            Regards Maurice.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by MAURICE View Post
                              Hi .
                              I am wondering if it is possible to set up coils in this manner.
                              Null the coils ( with initial LC to approximate value ).
                              Then with the coils overlapped ,fine tune C on Rx coil using universal oscillator to achieve the magic 1.11 TX - Rx freqency ratio . Or does on have to separate the coils to measure the freqency ? . I also have oscillator in my project named coilset which is in the IGSL post. Basically it is TSGL front end but the files are in diptrace format very naughty of me,
                              it is a great freeware program I have tried a few programs and have the 500 pin lite version which is you can get on request form diptrace.
                              Thanks for sharing your project and info.
                              Regards Maurice.
                              Hi Maurice
                              Yes you can null the coils with this project no problem at all, as said in earlier posting here, did null and poted within the hour.
                              The secret behind it is knowing the specifacations of the coil required, I took readings off a manufactures coil and duplicated it, hence I new that 400mvp-p was the required nulling point.
                              All setting up procedure was done with coil checker,scope,frequency counter,multimeter, only used the TGSL to see if the coils worked at the end, which it did and suprisingly well.
                              Soon as I get time going to try and duplicate a 12" round tesro coil 4.7/5.2mh using this method.
                              By the way fit TX/RX CXs in the coil head, then you can make multiple coils to fit each detector without farting about.

                              Regards

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