A question for fun!!

[Nightryder]

Assuming your life is on the line (God forbids), and in order to get to safety you have to cross a heavily mineralized and vast minefield (2 to 3 mines per square meter). Your only advantage is to pick out any metal detector you wish; However, military type detectors are excluded. Amongst all DIY and commercial machines, what would be your detector to choose? what's the coil size? and why?


Think wisely, your life is the treasure you are after!!!



*kindly, share your answer without quoting this post.

[ivconic]

Good question but also easy to answer!
I would choose the detector I know best. With which I am most related.
In my case it is not one.
There are ten...ish of them on the "top list".
I would have a hard choice! Hahaha!
It's not easy to answer though!

[kt315]

i have to choice trained dog. and deeper 10dd

[Carl-NC]

2-3 mines per square meter leaves no room for a footprint. I'd say it's hopeless. If it's a more reasonable situation -- say, 1 mine per 10 sq meters -- then I'd probably choose the SDC2300 or maybe the Axiom.

[Nightryder]

Ivconic: You have to tell what machine you trust your life with !

Kt315: I'm afraid dogs can not help with this density of mines. 10 DD is not too bad only if you could pick a machine my friend


Carl-NC: Excellent choice!! the idea behind "2-3 mines per square meter" is to challenge the recovery speed of your machine.

[ivconic]

Yes, 2-3 mines per square meter is an impossible case, no one decides for that in a war, it is an unnecessary waste of resources.
From case to case and from mine type to mine type, it goes on average from 1 mine per square meter to 1 mine per 3 square meters.
The worst case scenario is that they are all plastic mines with one to three small thin "shock pins".
No metal detector helps here in this case, but a "foreign body" detector.
A detector that analyzes the average soil composition and sudden regular changes in the soil.
That technology is not public and you won't find information about it anywhere. But I'll give you a little hint.
For only 20-30 dollars you can buy a better digital "stud finder" which, among other things, has a mode of "detection of a wooden beam" under the layer of plaster.
Of course, this cheap technology is only the tip of the iceberg of the much more advanced technology I'm alluding to.

[ivconic]

Ivconic: You have to tell what machine you trust your life with !

No one! None!
I was in war... i saw things.
Feel free to wipe your... "lower cheeks" with any of the "specialized" minesweepers used by conventional armies today...
...
A bit of dark humor! The best "mine hunter" is a "volunteer"!

[ivconic]

Our domestic Serbian film on these topics.

[Nightryder]

Yes, 2-3 mines per square meter is an impossible case, no one decides for that in a war, it is an unnecessary waste of resources.
From case to case and from mine type to mine type, it goes on average from 1 mine per square meter to 1 mine per 3 square meters.
The worst case scenario is that they are all plastic mines with one to three small thin "shock pins".
No metal detector helps here in this case, but a "foreign body" detector.
A detector that analyzes the average soil composition and sudden regular changes in the soil.
That technology is not public and you won't find information about it anywhere. But I'll give you a little hint.
For only 20-30 dollars you can buy a better digital "stud finder" which, among other things, has a mode of "detection of a wooden beam" under the layer of plaster.
Of course, this cheap technology is only the tip of the iceberg of the much more advanced technology I'm alluding to.

And here goes the fun purpose of the question. LOL

Dark! but I have to let it slide because it's very informative. Funny you mentioned stud finders because they were the reason that eventually I ended up with this hobby.

Sorry for what you have been through man

[ivconic]

You have given me an interesting problem to think about further.
I have Dues 1 for 12 years. More experienced Deus users know a few good setup tricks.
I don't remember exactly from which version (currently I have 5.21) they introduced discrimination settings in "minus" in XP until -6.4
There are numerous older videos on the net and YouTube on how to set some options. Deus adjusted in this way "sees" subtle differences in soil composition.
Someone somewhere assumed it was good for hunting meteorites. Just a guess. But I personally made sure that Deus starts to behave very interestingly with such settings.
It literally "sees" even different minerals.
Who is persistent and additionally adjusts different tones and thresholds for different ranges on the phase scale; it can lead to very interesting, narrow-purpose settings.
I abandoned such settings a couple of years ago and since then, by inertia, I use only two of my custom programs.
But now you've given me an idea to wonder... how would such a setup behave on various mines!?
I have Deus. I just need a few types of modern mines to test! Anyone have a loan?

[ivconic]

[ivconic]

[Nightryder]

You have given me an interesting problem to think about further.
I have Dues 1 for 12 years. More experienced Deus users know a few good setup tricks.
I don't remember exactly from which version (currently I have 5.21) they introduced discrimination settings in "minus" in XP until -6.4
There are numerous older videos on the net and YouTube on how to set some options. Deus adjusted in this way "sees" subtle differences in soil composition.
Someone somewhere assumed it was good for hunting meteorites. Just a guess. But I personally made sure that Deus starts to behave very interestingly with such settings.
It literally "sees" even different minerals.
Who is persistent and additionally adjusts different tones and thresholds for different ranges on the phase scale; it can lead to very interesting, narrow-purpose settings.
I abandoned such settings a couple of years ago and since then, by inertia, I use only two of my custom programs.
But now you've given me an idea to wonder... how would such a setup behave on various mines!?
I have Deus. I just need a few types of modern mines to test! Anyone have a loan?

Sorry pal! the mines I have are barely enough for my own tests

[ivconic]

WM6 once proposed small thin insulin needles as targets for such testing. Or was it Tony Tinkerer? I do not remember.
But that's an old topic and we've talked about it before. You just have to find it on the forum.
It's a (pretty good) guess that those disposable insulin needles are most like the "firing needles" in modern non-metalic mines.
Here's an idea to revive old topics and explore things again in detail!

[moodz]

Solid state backscatter x-ray imaging carried by a drone. A small remote detonator is then placed by a drone on the mine location or a hunter seeker drone shoots the mine locations with a specialised projectile. Detecting mines by metal content is not a recommended practice in modern warfighting. With the density of mines mentioned by the OP mechanical ie mineplough is the most efficient means.