Ground Balance Theory

[Dave J.]

Aziz went trolling for fish and caught two. I went trolling for fish and only caught one. What was the probability of zero?

Betting that P(fish) not = zero has thousands of years of history. Jesus went trolling for fish and caught two (Mark 6:38 ). In another instance (Mark 8:7) he went trolling for fish and caught "a few". He was betting that the probability of zero was pretty low. The Galilean disciples were passable as fishermen but really sucked at calculating odds. In 8:21 Jesus berates them, "you guys are dunderheads."

--Dave J.

[Aziz]

Ufox,

I did forget to say:
"It's the end of Greedlab!"
*LOL*

Aziz,
the majik madman *LOL*

[Aziz]

Aziz went trolling for fish and caught two. I went trolling for fish and only caught one. What was the probability of zero?

Betting that P(fish) not = zero has thousands of years of history. Jesus went trolling for fish and caught two (Mark 6:38 ). In another instance (Mark 8:7) he went trolling for fish and caught "a few". He was betting that the probability of zero was pretty low. The Galilean disciples were passable as fishermen but really sucked at calculating odds. In 8:21 Jesus berates them, "you guys are dunderheads."

--Dave J.

Dave,

I'm a truly atheist. I don't really know the story of the fishermen.
But that's going to be off-topic.
Aziz

[Dave J.]

Just giving examples of the generality of the Fish Equation, so general that it's the foundation of the Aziz Equation. That's why I posted about it, it's very on-topic. Doesn't have anything to do with theology.

Wait a minute, maybe it does! What's the probability of zero angels dancing on the head of a pin?

--Dave J.

PS: I've also used the Fish Equation to calculate meteorological persistence from climatic data, back before I got into metal detectors. In most climates, meteorological persistence is about 2.3 days, the basic periodicity resulting from the passage of pressure systems being 2 pi that figure, or 14.5 days on the average. That's why for example during the August monsoon season in El Paso, there are on the average two major episodes of wet weather lasting several days each.

[Aziz]

Just giving examples of the generality of the Fish Equation, so general that it's the foundation of the Aziz Equation. That's why I posted about it, it's very on-topic. Doesn't have anything to do with theology.

Wait a minute, maybe it does! What's the probability of zero angels dancing on the head of a pin?

--Dave J.

No!, your examples are too fishy im my opinion.
Although, I like BBQ'ed fish very much.
Aziz

[Aziz]

What's the probability of zero angels dancing on the head of a pin?

Ok, this is specially for you:

P(angles existing) = 0
P(zero angles existing) = 1
P(head of a pin existing) = 1
P(angles can dance) = 0
P(dancing on the head of a pin) = 1 (why not )

P(zero angels dancing on the head of a pin) = 1
*LOL*
Aziz

[Dave J.]

Aziz, that's an achievement in theology that centuries of medieval theologians tried and failed at. Ain't the Fish Equation wonderful?? Congratulations!

So far I only caught one fish, but I didn't eat it, I tossed it back in the water. Thus have I caught the same fish with the same bait how many times now? The Fish Equation is the foundation of the Aziz Equation. This has been a lot of fun because I knew you would be in denial. Your post at the top of page 17 tipped your hand.

--Dave J.

[OFF-TOPIC]: On that Gospel of Mark thing, it's the most important work of literature in the history of the Western world, and it's only about a 2 hour read for the average reader. No need to be that uneducated about culture and history, you can find it online in almost any language on the planet. It's a helluva story. And don't worry, it's safe to read it, its content is not of a sort that's going to make anyone want to rush off to church any time soon.

[Dave J.]

Eric probably smelled this coming on when he saw my post #402 in this thread, but I see he's stayed out of it. You obviously didn't make the connection. Meanwhile, someone in France has gotta be laughing so hard that their champagne is becoming spumante.

Aziz, it's been a lot of fun giving you a hard time, because you earned it fair and square with your post #401. You've been a good sport about it and I thank you for that.

As you grow older, if you're paying attention you'll discover that you're not the only smart person on the planet. What's worse, you'll discover that you're not nearly as smart as you thought you were. Welcome to the real world.

I gotta get back to work now.

--Dave J.

[Aziz]

Eric probably smelled this coming on when he saw my post #402 in this thread, but I see he's stayed out of it. You obviously didn't make the connection. Meanwhile, someone in France has gotta be laughing so hard that their champagne is becoming spumante.

Aziz, it's been a lot of fun giving you a hard time, because you earned it fair and square with your post #401. You've been a good sport about it and I thank you for that.

As you grow older, if you're paying attention you'll discover that you're not the only smart person on the planet. What's worse, you'll discover that you're not nearly as smart as you thought you were. Welcome to the real world.

I gotta get back to work now.

--Dave J.

Sorry Dave, I don't understand what you intend to say.

But I know for sure, that I'm the smartest guy on the universe! *LOL*
(Joking of course).

Ok, I'll take it easy and won't get upset.
Aziz

[Dave J.]

Sadly, Aziz has stopped biting the bait. French denizens of the forum, it's your turn now! After you've recovered from the laughter of course.

--Dave J.

PS: I'm amazed that I got away with this for so long.

[Dave J.]

Best reference on the subject I ever owned, was Hechos y Estadisticas Jose Puy-Huarte (Universidad de Argentina). Dated probably something like 1960 or so, I don't remember. In Spanish, but the exposition was with such clarity that it didn't take much knowledge of Spanish to "get it". Unfortunately a few years back I gave a bunch of books away and that little paperback was among them. Paper book libraries aren't obsolete, but they are disappearing nonetheless. You won't find my "Technical Notes on Ramp Metering" on the Internet, either. Traffic engineers much younger than I am don't even know the work ever existed.

What most people don't realize is that the repository of knowledge we know now as the Internet could vanish in an historical instant. The only previous event of comparable scale to civilization's compendium of knowledge was the torching of the Library of Alexandria by a Christian mob back in the Roman era.

Some of my most valuable resources of information are books that never made it onto the Internet.

--Dave J.

[EDIT]: the customary attribution of the torching of the Library of Alexandria by a Christian mob may be more the product of proud church historians than of actual history: Wikipedia provides a much broader and more skeptical view. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Library_of_Alexandria .....Nonetheless, my point is clear: the Internet should not be viewed as the repository of all knowledge, there are political forces which would gladly wipe it out. Keep as many print books as you can.

[Qiaozhi]

Nonetheless, my point is clear: the Internet should not be viewed as the repository of all knowledge, there are political forces which would gladly wipe it out. Keep as many print books as you can.

This reminds me of Fahrenheit 451 by Ray Bradbury.

[Aziz]

Sadly, Aziz has stopped biting the bait. French denizens of the forum, it's your turn now! After you've recovered from the laughter of course.

--Dave J.

PS: I'm amazed that I got away with this for so long.

Oh yeah!, I'm really interested in French peoples opinion. Looking forward to it.
(I don't know, who do you refer to. But anyway.)
Aziz

[Ferric Toes]

Oh yeah!, I'm really interested in French peoples opinion. Looking forward to it.
(I don't know, who do you refer to. But anyway.)
Aziz

Don't know who the French people are, but I am recently back from there. Hit some air turbulence on the return flight, but it was really me having a good laugh and rocking the plane. As Dave said, you can be thirty years behind the times and not know it. Even the mighty Google does not know everything about magnetic viscosity, as much of the more historical info has not been uploaded. Best keep it that way as us oldies can then pull out a PA gem now and again to amaze the upstarts.
Now back to the workbench for some serious work on the Ultimate WBGB (works on Mars too).

Eric.

[sido]

WBGB is quite a few light years away.,,,,,Still waiting though...like many hobbiest's.

Serious though...theory is only theory as has been discussed for years here and there,,,,,,and.......wait........many years to come to in practical terms.

Question: when is the ultimate Ground Balance to be achieved in theory, let alone in practical terms......well I say never...................But very interesting though.

This game is all about resources and being drip fed. Only the ones with the finances and R&D can supply the public with what they are looking for.

Aziz....Aussies do it better

Cheers Sid