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  • #31
    Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
    Detailed seen of course there's a difference between (bad) thoughts aka feelings and brain-chemistry:

    Per instance It feels painful for my "inner me" when I (it) think(s) about losses which would have been avoidable.
    The chemical depression instead is comparable with a really bad hangover after a very long party-night.

    The brain strives to feel good or even high by special neuro-transmitters (endorphines, esp. dopamine)
    which can cause addictions. To survive, the brain constructed some sort of reward-punishment-system.
    The living creature feels satisfaction when it had been successful with looking for food etc.
    And for reproduction the brain also kicks in with "staying-together-hormone" oxytocine as reward-system
    for striving for sex which even can make the mind "dizzy".

    To avoid "brain-chemical" depressions it is important to live healthy - that's clear.
    People who only function normally when they drink alot coffee or smoke 40 cigarettes a day
    have trained their brain to "calm down" or "wake up" depending on the situation to feel better.
    In principle this works like a pain-killer or motivation-pusher but the brain might suffer when
    it wants to work against this artificial chemistry like it also happens at the hangover-time.
    People addicted to heroine feel very bad when they are not on the drug.

    Going out with the metal-detector, having fresh air, bright daylight and seeing distracting things
    of course is healthy for the brain-chemistry but also to get rid of "problem-deep-thinking".
    However, the brain must not be poisoned by drugs which makes it depressive and
    Anti-Depressivas are no wonder-medicine to live all day inside some pink cloud.
    Psychoactive substances even can create extreme hyper-sensitivity and then life
    can become a real nightmare, because all problems for the brain look extremely huge.


    Concerning troublesome thoughts the whole point is motivation:
    How lucrative the day can become so it's worth jumping out of the bed!
    Lucrative work helps very good because it's distraction and reward in one.

    So of course it's logically if someone likes to have a good metal-detector
    to raise the chances for success (inclusive his own pleasureful thoughts).
    But the personal point of view is at least equally important!


    Taking life too seriously leads to frustrating thoughts
    while taking it easy and laughing about it leads to joy!
    Laughing is a very good medicine against depressions
    so its indicated to look for funny and amusing things.

    For men it's also adviced to avoid women who are "drama queens"
    and who spread the whole day all kind of hyper-sensitive feelings!
    They like to make out of every little emotional fly an elephant just for
    standing in the middle of all attention - of course this is frustrating!
    What they are doing is called: "emotional-environmentally pollution"
    which can drive anyone nearby crazy.

    Women are crying all the time but men are those who commit much more often
    suicide! This truth shows clearly how are the relations of psychic problems in reality!
    Lamenting women should be ignored completely even if they start to refuse sex!


    Another good trick against depressions is simply thinking about all kind of
    wishes and things which would make the personal life really enjoyable and
    next becoming active to do something to make those wishes become true.


    And last but not least:
    Sometimes it's really better not thinking at all and just let the time take care!
    Because there is no solution possible or available at the actual moment anyway!
    Ive just had lots of problems in my life going back to when i was fifteen years old and about six years ago my mother died and i lost my family home....i have now been benifit capped and lost £110 per month from my housing benifit...and i have lots of debts...and also the system tried to take my wife away from me after i was mourning the death of my mother and put me and my wife through 18 months of hell....its a wonder im still alive with all the depression anxiety stress fear that ive been through...its done much damage to me emotionally...electronics and trying to make detectors has been sometimes a way of escape for me to help forget my problems...when im on the beach with a metal detector in the summer on a low tide and the sun is shinning on the water in the evening its a wonderful way to try and relax. at the moment i just cannot sit down in my little room and do any more to my projects...my mind and thinking is too low for me even to pick up the soldering iron and do anything...i cannot even cope under small pressure anymore....i suffered with depression and anxiety for a long time but loosing my mum and home and the problems i had with the system for 18 months concerning my wife and now being benifit capped and debts have all been too much for me to cope with...ive had councelling many times but still my problems are in my mind.

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    • #32
      Daverave,
      just a few words to tell you that I understand how you feel. May be your problems could be better addressed if you take some time to share things with some people.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Altair View Post
        Daverave,
        just a few words to tell you that I understand how you feel. May be your problems could be better addressed if you take some time to share things with some people.
        There's not many people i can really tell my problems to except councellors...i have a large family but i hardly see any of them...i cannot really talk to my wife as she has problems of her own...she is philipino and had a very hard life back in the philippines...my wife and two children are the one's who keep me going in this life !!!! see i got married late in life at the age of 52...i devoted my life to my mother after my dad died when i was fifteen years old...me and mum were together for 52 years..and when she died it hurt me so much loosing her as she was always my best friend in life....we were just very close !!! and mum had an equity release on the home i had lived in for 52 years and when mum died they wanted their money which i could not pay and so i was forced to sell my family home....and now in rented flat near to the sea.

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        • #34
          Hey Dave, you could turn this around , ask your mate for the circuit to his new fancy machine, publish it here and we can turn it into a project, and then you would be able to match all your MD friends on the beach ?

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          • #35
            What's the problem here I've already seen some detectors it does not detect copper ?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXNQOG8ldI

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            • #36
              Originally posted by daverave View Post
              There's not many people i can really tell my problems to except councellors...i have a large family but i hardly see any of them...i cannot really talk to my wife as she has problems of her own...she is philipino and had a very hard life back in the philippines...my wife and two children are the one's who keep me going in this life !!!! see i got married late in life at the age of 52...i devoted my life to my mother after my dad died when i was fifteen years old...me and mum were together for 52 years..and when she died it hurt me so much loosing her as she was always my best friend in life....we were just very close !!! and mum had an equity release on the home i had lived in for 52 years and when mum died they wanted their money which i could not pay and so i was forced to sell my family home....and now in rented flat near to the sea.

              Its always your personal decision to see the things in life as losses or as gains!

              But as long as you think about losses you never will be happy! LOL

              Simply spoken, you really need some: "Forget it"-attitude.

              If Pam Anderson don't wanna be my wife: Scr*w it, she isn't it worth anyway! LOL

              Life's a crazy piece of bullsh*t - ending with death - WOW - fantastic! LOL
              But because we don't wanna suffer we're trying to make the best out of it.

              And if your wife has it's own problems - hell - I would toss her because this is no useful "joint-venture".
              A couple has to give comfort and support to each other, this is no damned one way road!

              Don't feel yourself offended but I'm rather the tough "uncle doc" instead of the soft to everything yes and amen saying
              psychologist! LOL
              The world keeps on turning and doesn't cares about personalities who are living in the " good ol' " past
              or seeing everything as an unbearable big loss! And only you alone can keep yourself ongoing in life.
              If you are laughing the world laughs with you, if you are crying you are crying all alone!
              We all lose relatives and friends but we have to be happy with what they gave us and not being sad
              for the whole eternal life because they're gone! They wouldn't want that, too.

              Lad, you really have to learn to look on the bright side of life, again! LOL
              Otherwise: The sea makes no prisoners ... But we will not think that far.
              And if all the indoctrinated emotionality drives you insane you must find a way to adjust it at some acceptable level.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Orbit View Post
                What's the problem here I've already seen some detectors it does not detect copper ?

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6kXNQOG8ldI
                This video is meant for slander, nothing more. That same You Tube user (participant of Pulse Relic distribution) have produced in the past a number of distasteful ugly videos against many brands and people.
                Nexus Bonanza detects copper very well, but not in Hot Rocks position of the GB switch and this is how the detector is set on this video, intentionally.
                In Hot Rocks position Bonanza will reject not only Iron Ore and all hot rocks , but also all large metal objects, because it is designed to work in this way with this setting. The Hot Rocks setting is meant for search of small gold coins and possibly gold nuggets without trouble of anything else.

                Every Nexus model can reject all large metal targets and detect only the small ones. It is described under "Special Modes of Operation" section of the User Manual. Apparently this setting is been used for slander now by the suppliers of Pulse Relic metal detector.

                It is a common low practice in Eastern Europe to slander someone else in order to elevate their own products.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Nexus View Post
                  This video is meant for slander, nothing more. That same You Tube user (participant of Pulse Relic distribution) have produced in the past a number of distasteful ugly videos against many brands and people.
                  Nexus Bonanza detects copper very well, but not in Hot Rocks position of the GB switch and this is how the detector is set on this video, intentionally.
                  In Hot Rocks position Bonanza will reject not only Iron Ore and all hot rocks , but also all large metal objects, because it is designed to work in this way with this setting. The Hot Rocks setting is meant for search of small gold coins and possibly gold nuggets without trouble of anything else.

                  Every Nexus model can reject all large metal targets and detect only the small ones. It is described under "Special Modes of Operation" section of the User Manual. Apparently this setting is been used for slander now by the suppliers of Pulse Relic metal detector.

                  It is a common low practice in Eastern Europe to slander someone else in order to elevate their own products.
                  OK thank you Nexus !

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by 6666 View Post
                    Hey Dave, you could turn this around , ask your mate for the circuit to his new fancy machine, publish it here and we can turn it into a project, and then you would be able to match all your MD friends on the beach ?
                    Hi 6666....to be honest i dont think he would share his circuit with me...he texts me at times about his latest proformance but i cant really take it anymore..so ive not answered back...all i know its based on the gs 5 design that was posted on here and he has used cmos chips 4060 with 4017 for tx oscillator and sample pulses and somehow got a very good smooth threshold as he stated...i just cannot compete as i do not have the expertise to equal what he has made.

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                    • #40
                      Hi Dave
                      ok, well you have nothing to loose by asking him, sound him out, you never know your luck.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by Funfinder View Post
                        Its always your personal decision to see the things in life as losses or as gains!

                        But as long as you think about losses you never will be happy! LOL

                        Simply spoken, you really need some: "Forget it"-attitude.

                        If Pam Anderson don't wanna be my wife: Scr*w it, she isn't it worth anyway! LOL

                        Life's a crazy piece of bullsh*t - ending with death - WOW - fantastic! LOL
                        But because we don't wanna suffer we're trying to make the best out of it.

                        And if your wife has it's own problems - hell - I would toss her because this is no useful "joint-venture".
                        A couple has to give comfort and support to each other, this is no damned one way road!

                        Don't feel yourself offended but I'm rather the tough "uncle doc" instead of the soft to everything yes and amen saying
                        psychologist! LOL
                        The world keeps on turning and doesn't cares about personalities who are living in the " good ol' " past
                        or seeing everything as an unbearable big loss! And only you alone can keep yourself ongoing in life.
                        If you are laughing the world laughs with you, if you are crying you are crying all alone!
                        We all lose relatives and friends but we have to be happy with what they gave us and not being sad
                        for the whole eternal life because they're gone! They wouldn't want that, too.

                        Lad, you really have to learn to look on the bright side of life, again! LOL
                        Otherwise: The sea makes no prisoners ... But we will not think that far.
                        And if all the indoctrinated emotionality drives you insane you must find a way to adjust it at some acceptable level.
                        Hi Funfinder....many thanks for your help to me...im just one of those people who find it hard to let go of the past...im not a strong person in my mind and find it hard to overcome things in life....even though i have a wonderful wife and kids i find it hard to be happy cause the past over shadows me. hobbies like electronics and detecting are a good way of trying to forget my problems but im struggling at present to carry on trying to experiment or make anything detector wise....when people like the guy i mentioned keep boasting of how their latest project can go deeper it just makes me feel worst in myself cause i cannot compete and feel like giving up !!! i appreciate all your comments everyone on this site and your understanding.

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by Nexus View Post
                          This video is meant for slander, nothing more. That same You Tube user (participant of Pulse Relic distribution) have produced in the past a number of distasteful ugly videos against many brands and people.
                          Nexus Bonanza detects copper very well, but not in Hot Rocks position of the GB switch and this is how the detector is set on this video, intentionally.
                          In Hot Rocks position Bonanza will reject not only Iron Ore and all hot rocks , but also all large metal objects, because it is designed to work in this way with this setting. The Hot Rocks setting is meant for search of small gold coins and possibly gold nuggets without trouble of anything else.
                          Every Nexus model can reject all large metal targets and detect only the small ones. It is described under "Special Modes of Operation" section of the User Manual. Apparently this setting is been used for slander now by the suppliers of Pulse Relic metal detector.
                          It is a common low practice in Eastern Europe to slander someone else in order to elevate their own products.
                          Ok, it is obvious "comic" in his behavior, no doubts in that.
                          Aside this funny attempt.
                          I was always wanted to clarify few facts about such type of copper. Old one. Manually crafted and manually hammered copper.
                          Because i also noticed that it is very tough target at some metal detector models.
                          So i tried a small investigation. But got no results. All i learned from old craftsman was that there are two types of such copper; "male" and "female" ???!!!
                          And that's as far as i discovered.
                          One of those is very easy target, causing strong detector response and the other one is quite opposite; tough target causing almost none response at metal detectors.
                          I don't know about Nexus, but i know very well about Delta Pulse; it is giving absolute NONE response at such targets!?? And i can't explain why and how come?!
                          Several years ago me and my crew made small testing bed in backyard. We buried very large pot crafted manually from such material, probably 200-300 years old.
                          It was some 60-70cm diameter, very large "target", buried at exactly 1m depth.
                          Delta Pulse with 70cm round coil produced NONE response on it!? So as Cscope 1220B!? So as White's Eagle IIC!? So as few other models!?
                          We tried all the possible adjustments at those detectors. No results.
                          I am sure it is made from copper. Old one. Manually hammered, crafted... don't know proper term for such works. It is metal. It is heavy. Having few visible scratches on surface, showing dark yellow almost red color.
                          It is having patina too. All the features as any other type of copper.
                          But it remains undetectable despite its size and not that large depth in soil.
                          How come? I can't tell.
                          Few meters away from that spot there is another target buried. Silver coated plate, 30cm diameter. Buried at 70cm in soil. Very easy target at most of detectors!
                          Latest model that i have tried was FelezJoo PI. Easily detects silver plate. Not detecting copper pot at all!?
                          So... what to say?
                          I am having no explanations on this yet.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by ivconic View Post
                            Ok, it is obvious "comic" in his behavior, no doubts in that.
                            Aside this funny attempt.
                            I was always wanted to clarify few facts about such type of copper. Old one. Manually crafted and manually hammered copper.
                            Because i also noticed that it is very tough target at some metal detector models.
                            So i tried a small investigation. But got no results. All i learned from old craftsman was that there are two type of such copper; "male" and "female" ???!!!
                            And that's as far as i discovered.
                            One of those is very easy target, causing strong detector response and the other one is quite opposite; tough target causing almost none response at metal detectors.
                            I don't know about Nexus, but i know very well about Delta Pulse; it is giving absolute NONE response at such targets!?? And i can't explain why and how come?!
                            Several years ago me and my crew made small testing bed in backyard. We buried very large pot crafted manually from such material, probably 200-300 years old.
                            It was some 60-70cm diameter, very large "target", buried at exactly 1m depth.
                            Delta Pulse with 70cm round coil produced NONE response on it!? So as Cscope 1220B!? So as White's Eagle IIC!? So as few other models!?
                            We tried all the possible adjustments at those detectors. No results.
                            I am sure it is made from copper. Old one. Manually hammered, crafted... don't know proper term for such works. It is metal. It is heavy. Having few visible scratches on surface, showing dark yellow almost red color.
                            It is having patina too. All the features as any other type of copper.
                            But it remains undetectable despite its size and not that large depth in soil.
                            How come? I can't tell.
                            Few meters away from that spot there is another target buried. Silver coated plate, 30cm diameter. Buried at 70cm in soil. Very easy target at most of detectors!
                            Latest model that i have tried was FelezJoo PI. Easily detects silver plate. Not detecting copper pot at all!?
                            So... what to say?
                            I am having no explanations on this yet.
                            The problem with large pots made out of hammered copper is that they are targets with almost the longest time constant amongst all targets. When GB is done the very long time constant signals will tend to get on a vector opposite to the soil vector which makes them undetectable. This condition is strongly enhanced by higher sampling frequencies and fast recovery systems meaning these two can not detect hammered copper targets ever at depth.
                            So the only way to properly detect a hammered copper targets at great depth is a sampling frequency bellow 6kHz and slow recovery speed of the electronics.

                            At high frequency I have observed a very odd effect with these hammered copper buckets. At 14kHz my 20 cm HC bucket respond very well up to about 2/3 of the detecting range around 80 cm or so in air. Above this limit the signal gets literally reversed in polarity and the targets sounds when getting out of the coil with a faint audio and it is effectively undetectable at that range. At 5.7kHz and slow recovery speed the same HC bucket is detectable all the way up to 110 cm and at 1 meter in the ground with a signal stronger than in air. HF coils can not sniff this bucket out of the ground at that depth no matter the coil size.

                            These type of targets will best detect at about 4.5kHz with big search coils, but all other signals will be rather miserable at depth.

                            PI does not respond well to these objects. Lorentz have done some advance in their search methods and can detect them fairly well at good depth.

                            In my opinion all of the mentioned above goes for bronze statues and any other massive bronze and copper objects. Very big hoards of coins are easier to detect, but are still a long time constant signals.

                            Also higher reactive component of the soil makes the detecting of these targets even more difficult.

                            The best search coils for locating HC objects are the concentric type.

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Nexus View Post
                              The problem with large pots made out of hammered copper is that they are targets with almost the longest time constant amongst all targets. When GB is done the very long time constant signals will tend to get on a vector opposite to the soil vector which makes them undetectable. This condition is strongly enhanced by higher sampling frequencies and fast recovery systems meaning these two can not detect hammered copper targets ever at depth.
                              So the only way to properly detect a hammered copper targets at great depth is a sampling frequency bellow 6kHz and slow recovery speed of the electronics.

                              At high frequency I have observed a very odd effect with these hammered copper buckets. At 14kHz they 20 cm bucket respond very well up to about 2/3 of the detecting range up to 80 cm or so. Above this limit the signal gets literally reversed in polarity and the targets sounds when getting out of the coil with a faint audio and it is effectively undetectable at that range.

                              These type of targets will best detect at about 4.5kHz with big search coils.

                              PI does not respond well to these objects. Lorentz have done some advance in their search methods and can detect them fairly well at good depth.

                              In my opinion all of the mentioned above goes for bronze statues and any other massive bronze and copper objects. Very big hoards of coins are easier to detect, but are still a long time constant signals.

                              Also higher reactive component of the soil makes the detecting of these targets even more difficult.
                              Alright, that's nice explanation, makes a lot of sense. Thanks!

                              "...Above this limit the signal gets literally reversed in polarity and the targets sounds when getting out of the coil with a faint audio and it is effectively undetectable at that range..."

                              Yes, this is visible at detectors behavior. There is a noticeable moment of reversing, more or less visible depending on metal detector type.
                              I can only add that this ( i would call it ) "phenomena" is also present at some massive and fat coins too.
                              Against all common logic; such rare coins sometimes acts as pretty tough target.
                              But usually such coins are having higher percentage of copper in alloy. Not "good" and "noble" bronze, as we are explaining it in our local vocabulary.
                              Usually those are coins from late Byzantine period when they mixed more copper and less silver in such alloys.

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                              • #45
                                Daverave what country you are residing now?

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